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That’s absolutely incorrect. It’s a significant amount of time, around 10 months, but you have to repeatedly get a cow pregnant over their useful life in order to continue getting milk from them. They will go dry faster if you don’t milk them, but the cycle of pregnant/lactating/dry/pregnant is fundamental in managing a herd.

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I stand corrected.

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This is btw one main reason why milk is murder, because many of those calves are often killed for their meat. The other reason is that cows stop beeing productive and are killed way before their natural death, since the replacement calves are rdy to go (I think it was something like after 5 years with their natural life span beeing around 25, but I’m not sure if I remember correctly).

A bit oversimplified, but just to add a bit more context why vegans don’t drink milk.

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At least 50% of them are killed - very, very few males make it to adulthood.

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“many” is doing a lot of lifting here.

the majority of Castle are slaughtered at full weight. hardly any become veal

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What about plant-based milk such as Soy Bean Milk - would that work as a suitable less resource intensive alternative?

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