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Why do companies have to behave so shady šŸ˜”

Thereā€™s arenā€™t a lot of manufacturers producing 512GB+ micro sd cardsā€¦ not sure if Sandisk/WD is worth the risk after this news

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I wonder how representative the Extreme portable drives are to their SD cards. SanDisk cards have always been extremely reliable. I assume the Extreme drives are fabricated in a different factory or even outsourced to some random Shenzhen plant. Worrying is the idea that theyā€™ve done the same with SD cards.

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Iā€™ve owned SanDisk for years, before 2016 and after. I havenā€™t seen a quality difference in the products I use but I also havenā€™t personally owned this Extreme drive. Flash memory used to have abysmal lifespans, like really bad at long-term storage. Makes me wonder if these Extreme drives are using old tech to save WD their bottom dollar.

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All the more reason for them to be transparent, name the problem, remove the affected stock from sale, set up some kind of recovery and/or compensation service, and write off the loss. Otherwise ā€œSanDiskā€ will mean ā€œyou have shit on your shoeā€ forever. In the storage space a brand has to mean ā€œsafeā€ or its dead.

Maybe they are still finding the edges of the problem. Maybe.

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These failures donā€™t have to do with where theyā€™re manufactured - it seems like this is some sort of firmware bug. NAND doesnā€™t really just choose to wipe itself at random. Actual NAND chip failures are few and far-between, so this is very likely much more than a hardware issue.

That said, I personally have done a lot of testing with WD-manufactured NAND, compared other companiesā€™ NAND - and the WD NAND is pretty crap. I canā€™t really go into further details than that, though.

Source - Iā€™m an SSD firmware engineer.

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We assume WD isnā€™t outsourcing their firmware engineering. That could explain why theyā€™re so quiet.

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This is not about microSD cards. This is about some very specific SSD USB hard drives.

Not sure why people would buy these from SanDisk anyway. I generally use Micron for SSDsā€¦ they have made various solid state memory products for 20 or 30 years. Not sure where SanDisk came fromā€¦ I have more heard about flash drives from them and have a bunch of small SD cards myself.

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Iā€™m aware of the difference. I was looking from the perspective of WDā€™s recent track record, with things like advertising DM SMR drives as NAS drives when they arenā€™t suited as such - I wouldnā€™t put it past them to make decisions negatively affecting the quality of their subsidariesā€™ other product segments

For SSDs I buy from any brand really - Sandisk, Crucial, Kingston, and occasionally knock off chinese brands. I like Micronā€™s offerings (particularly the MX series with PLP capacitor backup and very generous NAND overprovisioning) but you pay a small premium for those.

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Yes I should have said Crucial. That is the brand used by Micron. Just got an MX500, 1TB drive for my Wife.

Who are the big names for SSDs anyway. I mean ones that actually make them and sell them, not just brand them? I just recognize Micron/Crucial from the old days. They do memory chips of other kinds so I felt they should know had to do this sort of memory chipā€¦ nothing moreā€¦ do not know how people in the know rate them.

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