You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments
102 points

Was he actually Italian though? As in, speaking Italian, having an Italian passport etc.? Y’all Americans have weird definitions of nationality, just having a foreign sounding last name isn’t really enough…

permalink
report
reply
10 points

White Africans and Black Germans must have a great old time over there

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

White Africans

Charlize Theron is doing fantastic!

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

So is Musk

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

The word you are looking for is enthnicity. Enthnicity describes the (self-)perceived belonging to a population group. This is of course highly subjective.

There is undeniably perception of grouping in the US based on heritage, where it doesn’t really matter when your ancestors arrived, just from where. So from an American POV it makes sense to call him Italian, because he is in the same perceived group as all the people from Italy.

On the other hand from a European POV it doesn’t really matter, where your great grandparents come from. You are part of the US-Group, so you are American.

This is not an exclusive US Problem, but a general migration problem & it happens everywhere. Comments like yours are the reason, why people from migrated families feel like they are in-between cultures. Instead of writing snarky comments on the internet, just accept that your perception of ethnicity is part of your ethnicity and other people can have other perceptions.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points
*

Ever heard a white American try to have the tired-ass what’s your ancestry conversation with a black American descended from slaves? It’s pretty awkward. I hate these conversations and they need to stop.

I get it all the time because I’m 7/8 “white” and my last name is pretty distinctively German, even though it’s been anglicized.

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

According to Italian law if you have Italian ancestry, you’re Italian. There’s a whole process (with many asterisks and exceptions) in which you can apply to get your Italian passport

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

My great grandfather was an Italian immigrant. My father is looking into getting an Italian passport. Maybe being a soon-to-be physician will improve my chances of getting one too. (Maybe I’ll switch from learning French to learning Italian too)

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points
*

More of a

visits Italy for the first time over summer

continues to tell every living soul that their father’s father’s neighbour’s goldfish, was italian

… scenario

permalink
report
parent
reply
77 points

When someone from America says they Italian or whatever they aren’t talking about nationality, it’s about ancestry, where your family came from not what county you were born in

permalink
report
parent
reply
72 points

No no no no…it’s about what kind of food your mom cooked when you were a kid.

Which makes me…uhhhhhh…clown? I don’t know. She bought a lot of McDonalds.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

She was constantly making lemon meringue pies?

permalink
report
parent
reply
32 points

So… Scottish?

permalink
report
parent
reply
31 points
*

Dude’s name is Luigi and his last name sounds like a pizza restaurant. That settles it for me, thank you very much.

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

You joke, but that kind of prejudice is pretty hurtful in day to day life

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points

Who cares?

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

sorry but Luigi Mangione sounds like a name a token Italian character would have in harry potter. idk how prejudiced it is to assume this is an italian name.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Everything is hurtful now. Even nationality… jeez

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

Buddy, I’m German, I assure you I’ve been subjected to plenty of prejudice myself. Ever seen Die Hard? So flattering (not).

permalink
report
parent
reply

It’s important to remember that the Italians and the Irish were treated as a low rung of American society not all that long ago.

They are legitimate victims of the brunt of American hate.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points
*

Is it though? You would be hurt if someone thought you were Italian? You must think pretty poorly of them lol

In America since we came here and took the land from the natives we just assume everyone’s family came from somewhere else at some point in recent history. A lot of families are very proud of their ancestry and talk about it a lot.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Lemmy Shitpost

!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.

Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!


Rules:

1. Be Respectful

Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.


2. No Illegal Content

Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means:

-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)


3. No Spam

Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.


4. No Porn/Explicit

Content


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.


5. No Enciting Harassment,

Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Memes

2.Lemmy Review

3.Mildly Infuriating

4.Lemmy Be Wholesome

5.No Stupid Questions

6.You Should Know

7.Comedy Heaven

8.Credible Defense

9.Ten Forward

10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)


Reach out to

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules. Striker

Community stats

  • 15K

    Monthly active users

  • 11K

    Posts

  • 265K

    Comments