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Yes, because Outlook is still superior to Thunderbird (sadly)

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7 points

No its not.

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It is, but not enough to move the needle. It also carries a bunch of bloat.

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Recent Outlook doesn’t carry bloat. Or 70% of its former features.

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You are entitled to your own opinion but so am I.
This opinion is purely from a usability standpoint. I like the office suite and prefer the editing and menu over open/libre office.
And I say this as someone that created letter templates for clients.
Creating forms is way easier on Writer though. Very good (free) way to create forms!

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How so?

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I don’t use outlook anymore but I do use Thunderbird and the UI is janky and outdated, plus it has to download and catch up on messages every time you open it.

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Thunderbird in 2024 still doesn’t give you the option to use 12 hour time.

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Thanks for explaining!

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Have you used it in the past ~6 months? They updated their design a lot recently.

In the meantime Outlook updated their app to look and behave like the limited Windows Mail…

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I recently had to help a client move e-mails between two accounts and thunderbird out-timed multiple times. After finding out that not our firewall or the account is the issue (two gmail accounts) I looked and found some report on the mozilla forum about the issue. The workaround was to copy it first locally and then move a certain amount of emails manually.
Also I prefer the UI over current Thunderbird but I think this design could win me over:

But it seemingly needs to be configured manually to achieve that look reddit link?
Not really in the mood for trying that out.
I also need to mention I make heavy use of my personal domain and have several email accounts. It’s already a pain to manage them on the phone but sadly even there the option is gmail or outlook. Didnt look too much into alternatives but I am cagey about others having access to my SMTP password.
Yes, I heard that Microsoft attempted to hijack the (new) Mail app on Windows11 to MS news but I (hope) that they don’t do that with their Outlook Android/Windows version and only with their native Win11 client

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That new UX for outlook is infuriating though. I had to switch back to old outlook.

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If you have android then Thunderbird is available for it now, just so you know. iphone is out of luck though.

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That design is just their current design unless I’m missing something?

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That’s not the only email clients in existence, surely there are other ones that better? How many people even use desktop email client anymore?

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I also use Roundcube with several plugins/add-ons.

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