Comment by catloaf@lemm.ee on EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force

Suck it micro USB, mini USB, and lightning! 🪫🔋

If it’s really that much better, it’ll be used for other things and catch on, then they’ll be a part of the group.

How can it be used for other things, if this law makes that illegal?

The new law allows you to have more than one charging connector provided that either the USB-C one is the best one, or the USB-C one is as good as the spec allows. If the new connector’s genuinely better, then it’ll beat a maxed-out USB-C connector, so devices will provide it in addition to a maxed-out USB-C connector.

uh huh and when the company is sued into oblivion proving their tech is better then what? the problem with laws like this (and I generally support it) is that they give bad actors ways to club others to stifle competition.

Sued for following the law and making sure the required connector is present and functional? Unless I’m missing something, the law doesn’t require the port be exclusive. I mean, if it did, they’d have to stop including wireless charging, and I don’t see that happening.

Yes, its additional cost which acts as a moat by increasing development costs. now you need to design your new connector and make sure its compatible with the existing standard.

If I’m a company who builds widgets and this new startup will have a better design you damn well bet i’m going to sue them to increase costs and decrease the likely hood they’ll succeed.

And it would be tossed out for lack of standing before any arguments are heard or considered.

What would they be sued with?

There is no requirement to prove that a different connector is better. They simply have to provide it and then it can be better by obvious design. Although it’s irrelevant anyway because no company is going to come up with a better adapter than the USB consortium. Practically every manufacturer is already in it.

tell me you’ve never interacted or looked into the legal system without telling me you never interacted with or looked into how the legal system works.

the lawsuits don’t need to be reasonable just make filing the suit and then dragging it out as much as possible is effective enough.

Don’t get me wrong I like the standardization towards USB-C. but ignoring the implications of laws like this and how they can be abused is silly.

If that was actually how the legal system works (which it’s not, you need standing), then this law wouldn’t matter anyways because you could “sue” for any reason just to waste everyone’s time and money.

lawsuits don’t need to be reasonable just make filing the suit and then dragging it out as much as possible is effective enough.

Okay so firstly that’s not true. If a lawsuit isn’t reasonable it can be filed but it won’t make it to court. The courts are backed up enough, they don’t want their time wasting with irrelevant nonsense.

Secondly even if that was the case it wouldn’t make any difference because you could also sue companies for not following rules.

Thirdly please look up the actual law. There’s no requirement to use a particular port you simply have to include whatever the currently recommended standard is, if the recommended standard changes the law changes automatically without any lawmakers needing to do anything.

It doesn’t. It only applies to “smartphones, tablets and cameras”, according to the article.

Starting today, all new mobile phones, tablets, digital cameras, headphones, speakers, keyboards and many other electronics sold in the EU will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C charging port,"

Source: the article

[…] have to be equipped with […]

That does not mean only equipped with

Well now I don’t know what to believe. Anyone have a link to the legislation?

Looks like the devices are named in annex Ia, and includes 13 items.

If there is something so valuable as to require a new port on one of those devices, I’m sure they’d come up with something, such as by having USB-C for charging and something else for data.

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