Suck it micro USB, mini USB, and lightning! 🪫🔋

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What I don’t understand is what was wrong with mini-USB.

Too thick? Just why do people want a portable computer to be thinner that their wallet, or their notebook, or their damned pen, or that Snickers bar in their pocket which nobody made thinner. Who the hell told them that “miniaturization being the future of tech” has anything to do with the box inside which that tech is mounted being just a bit thinner? I mean, were it thin enough to put computers into printed magazine pages, maybe (I think I’ve read that someone did this, with a computer kinda as powerful as ZX Spectrum). Why do they specifically need it? Not to appear “modern”, but really?

The question is, because for me personally mini-USB was very convenient. It held well, was easy enough to stick the right way (and not ruin it trying to stick it the wrong way).

Now, I guess USB-C is fine if it can do the same and go both ways. I actually like it, except RPi 4 is the only device I have needing it.

It’s just … how can one try so many connector types for one group of standards?..

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If I were to guess, it would be the additional pins. USB-C PD is capable of decent power transfer while also having enough data transfer capability simultaneously. USB-C docks are a good example, seeing that you can hook up a display, charger, other USB devices, ethernet, etc and have it all go through a single cable and (compact, convenient) connector. The reversibility is an added bonus

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USB micro (not sure if you’re getting micro confused with mini, but doesn’t really matter) only supported data transfer, not video transfer (like HDMI). Some USB-C ports are data only, but it theoretically supports more than USB micro was ever capable of.

For example you can buy a USB-C to HDMI cable for a few dollars, which could theoretically plug your phone directly into your TV (if your phone supports that). But a USB micro to HDMI cable was called an “MHL adapter” and was expensive and only worked on specific MHL capable phones like this one. It has a separate box that requires its own power cord in order to work, it’s not just a simple cable. USB-C should, in theory, eliminate the need for such a thing.

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I do have that adapter, but you immediately realize phone screens suck when you mirror them on a big TV. Unfortunately it didn’t want to use it as a secondary screen - I don’t know if that has changed with modern iPhones/iPads: I should dig that up and try again

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Mini-USB sucked, big time. Not so bad as micro, but yea it was bad.

The main advantage of C over all previous versions is that it’s reversible, you can’t plug it in wrong. The shape is also… “flat”?, so it’s easier to fit into the socket, mini had that wavy like thing going on.

My data source is my small kid: he’s broken 3 (and counting…) usb-mini micro connectors by tugging the charging PS4 controllers, and he has to ask me to connect the cable to charge them, he’s unable to do it himself yet. With his tablet, 0 usb-c connectors broken and he can plug it in himself.

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4 points

I think you guys are taking about micro USB. PS4 controllers have micro, PS3 controllers had mini USB.

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They were both equally terrible the only improvement micro had over mini was it was slightly smaller.

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I stand corrected, thanks. The mini was bad, the micro in the PS4 controllers is god awful.

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Sigh. OK. About breaking stuff - my mom managed to break an RPi charger of all things.

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At the risk of sounding like Blizzard, don’t you have a phone? Even my previous phone, Galaxy S8 had USB-C. Or do you have an old iPhone?

Pretty much all electronics that came out in the past 4 years use USB-C. Just an example, here’s a non-exhaustive list of things that I charge with C:

  • MacBook (2020)
  • iPad (2018)
  • Galaxy S10e (2019)
  • Steam Deck (2022)
  • Nintendo Switch (2017)
  • Kindle (2020)

All of these are, on average, at least 4 years old. So I’m pretty sure the average consumer has already switched to primarily USB-C

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When I think about it, my phone is like 2 years old. Micro-USB.

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What phone is that? Genuinely curious. Was it actually manufactured in 2022 with micro USB?

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