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Is communism even possible without authoritarianism?

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You’re not wrong though. While it might be possible to do in theory people are not that nice or kind, you’ll never get everyone to share what they have and not own or try to possess things without an authoritarian government forcing it. Maybe in a more ideal world you could achieve it but that’s not the world we live in.

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“Gommunism is when everyone share everything”

Communism is an ideology that states that the means of production should belong to the working class, nowhere do the principles of communism deny the ownership of personal property. Look at home ownership rates and see which countries have the highest (China, post-soviet republics), and the lowest (Germany, US) rates

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…you should do some more research. What you just described isn’t communism, it doesn’t even match the dictionary definition of communism which requires there to be no private property. China has been progressively moving more free market even though they remain steadfast in their dystopian autocratic ways.

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Yes. Communism was never meant to be authoritarian anyway, it’s a classless, moneyless, stateless society. Only some people don’t believe in the stateless part.

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It’s not possible with authoritarianism either :)

Unless you count the version everybody insists on calling “social democracy” nowadays. That one can be done.

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Yes.

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If everything is shared under communism, that would include political power. thus (imo) communism is a direct democracy.

Edit: forgot what thread I was in. What the hell does communism have to do with US authoritarianism?

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Yeah, but humans are awful animals and true communism is a pipe dream.

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The awful ones are awful. They’re allowed to take power in the current system. We have awful rulers and the awful people who support them. We need only be aware of this phenomenon to mitigate it. Your solution appears to be not accepting possible solutions, which is just inaction. How does inaction stop awful people from destroying the planet?

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Ideal communism is what you described. Not communism in practice

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Traditional communism probably isn’t possible but it’s near guaranteed that no one in Lemmy wants communism like it’s traditionally taught

Edit: the fuck are you doing in a post about USA authorianism

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Why are you booing me I’m right

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Not in the worlds current state. Communism is what comes after the worlds problems are already solved, regardless of what people on here think, its not happening any time soon.

More social policies are needed but these guys messaging is so bad and off it refuses to look introspectively they end up sounding like trumpers

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