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This might be the first time I’ve ever seen something productive happen in the Phoronix forums. I love that place. Go to any topic with more than about a dozen posts and it’s almost guaranteed to be a flame war. Genuinely one of the funniest places on the Internet.

Check out this one. It took like three posts!

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95 points

The phoronix forums are insanely toxic. Everything is bad. Gnome = kid’s toy. systemd = written by Satan himself. Every programming language = too slow. Anything vaguely interested in fostering a diversity, equity, and inclusion = true colors come out in full force.

It’s so toxic yet I subject myself to it every now and again. There’s absolutely no moderation going on and it shows.

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59 points

Any post mentioning Wayland or btrfs is guaranteed to have at least 60 comments

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16 points

Obviously. X11 and ZFS are far superior. I use Arch, btw.

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12 points

It’s super confusing, like I feel many commenters there live in a different universe. They talk about how Wayland is a failure that has failed to get off the ground, while it’s the default in most of the major distros at this point.

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10 points

Once in a while I venture their forums as a morbid curiosity and it always delivers.

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9 points

There is some, but unless it gets really uncivilized no action really gets taken. a couple users have been banned

IMO I prefer it that way myself though. you either learn something neat, or engage in a class shittery. lots of other more polite forums such as this if phoronix forums isn’t to taste

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Interestingly, the guy who made the referenced post, ‘avis’, is allegedly the new name of ‘birdie’, a well-known troll on the forums who was banned a while back. Basically everyone there agrees that it’s him and no action is taken against this new account.

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What part of any of those opinions is toxic? Lol. If your feelings get hurt because of your parasocialtechnological relationship with software you didn’t even write, take it up with your therapist.

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Did you not see how that turned from a really inconsequential disagreement to something emotional and personal almost immediately?

Sure, no single post was particularly toxic on its own. It’s the holy war tenor of discussions on Phoronix that all but guarantees that every discussion ends up as a flame war.

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5 points

Anything vaguely interested in fostering a diversity, equity, and inclusion = true colors come out in full force.

if you don’t understand how this is toxic then you are dumb as dogshit

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23 points

Fyi, you’ve linked to page 4, here’s where it starts.

I hope the phoronix forums never die

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20 points

Man, that guy really likes X11.

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8 points

Any “X11 vs Wayland” discussion will eventually devolve into a fight beteeen diehard X11 fans and diehard Wayland fans, lol.

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5 points

I don’t even understand how Wayland has diehard fans. Do they just exit out from their hyperland rice into an X11 session whenever they need to share their screen during a Teams meeting, or do they just say “if it doesn’t work on Wayland it sucks and I don’t use it”.

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That’s hilarious.

“Mozilla is allowing you the option to build Firefox without X11 dependencies”

“Mozilla hates freedom!!!”

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14 points

I got to page 3 before I couldn’t take it anymore and had close 🤣

Nice

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I couldn’t even read halfway past page 2.

I love Phoronix, but its forum is such a cesspool.

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7 points

Especially when the original article is about anything related to Rust. An hour after the article is live you’ll have 50 posts arguing and trolling like there’s nothing more important in the whole wide world. So entertaining!

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5 points

It takes whatever amount of posts is needed for something Wayland-related

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2 points

How can one person miss so many logical points is beyond me

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