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I hate everything about this, but the part I hate more than everything else is how ‘normal’ jails being rife with violence and abuse is just treated as a matter of fact, not as something that needs to be fixed.

“They tried to tell me he was afraid of the general population … but that’s part of jail,” he said in a recent interview. “That’s what makes you not want to go back, it being such a horrible experience.”

No it fucking shouldn’t be, what the hell is wrong with these people?

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Yeah the reason you don’t want to go back is that you aren’t allowed to leave for an extended period of time. We need to be fostering jails that leave people capable of reintegration to society.

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You ever been to jail?

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No, I haven’t. I don’t see how that has any relevance, but if you have and disagree with me, please explain why?

To be clear (and head off one potential objection), I’m not saying all jails are actually as awful as they make them sound (as I really don’t know), I’m referring specifically to the tone of the article, which definitely paints a very specific picture and then normalizes it.

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Well it’s fine to have the sentiment you have (no violence in jails) but I’m really interested in how you’d propose to achieve that?

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GOOD point.

They forgot the part where only people who have been in jail can comment on it.

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I’d like to gauge how informed someone is on a topic before taking them too seriously.

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What kind of question is that?

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108 points

we dont have a justice system. we have a revenge system. it all makes sense when you view it from its reality.

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51 points

Well if we had reform oriented prisons we would run out of slave labor, duh. That’s why it’s in the constitution 🦅🦅

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In Australia we don’t have the slave workhouses you have in the states, but our justice system is still focused on retribution rather than rehabilitation.

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11 points

…stop being right!

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