“Norway is the world leader when it comes to the take up of electric cars, which last year accounted for nine out of 10 new vehicles sold in the country.”
Read over what you just wrote, and think about it for a second. If they have to be heated up to function, it supports my assertion that they do not function in extreme cold.
That 12% is not insignificant, and that’s just for the piece to keep the battery at minimal operating temperature. The battery’s capacity and performance will also be severely impacted on top of that, even with it warmed up. These inefficiencies and workarounds add up to the point that they eclipse the inefficiencies in hydrogen production, as the hydrogen is not impacted by any such issues at the point of use.
The loss of efficiency in an ICE is roughly 15% in the cold as well.
There are enormous materials issues with storing and transporting hydrogen that don’t scale well
Read over what you just wrote, and think about it for a second. If they have to be heated up to function, it supports my assertion that they do not function in extreme cold.
They function at a 12% range loss. That is a far cry from ‘do not function’
That 12% is not insignificant, and that’s just for the piece to keep the battery at operating temperature.
No it’s not. It’s total range loss, not battery capacity reduction. The article even states that the majority of that range loss is due to heating the cabin, not the battery. Which ICE vehicles would have to do anyway. The car gets 12% less total range, that’s the final figure taking everything else into account. You seem to have made up your mind about what you wish to support and are dismissing anything else that does not support your PoV.
Then don’t heat up the battery, and see if it runs. Won’t work, because EV’s have to heat up the battery to get it working, because they don’t function in extreme cold.
And while we’re at it, what’s the workaround for the batteries catching fire and exploding in the extreme heat of summer? We need to implement some cooling pumps while we’re at it?
Or just skip all of the complexity, and use abundant & clean hydrogen.
Then don’t heat up the battery, and see if it runs. Won’t work, because EV’s have to heat up the battery to get it working, because they don’t function in extreme cold.
WTF is wrong with your logic process? Why would you remove a key component of the car? Lets take the starter out of ICE vehicles. Oh hey, they don’t function in any temperature at all!
The point is clear that ICE vehicles work just fine if properly engineered for cold climates.
And while we’re at it, what’s the workaround for the batteries catching fire and exploding in the extreme heat of summer? We need to implement some cooling pumps while we’re at it?
Would you like to bring sources to this discussion? Here’s mine.
1529.9 fires per 100k for ICE vehicles and just 25.1 fires per 100k sales for EVs.
Oh, were you just pointing to 1-in-a-million incidents as reasons to shelve an entire technology. Tsk.
abundant & clean hydrogen.
There’s nothing abundant and clean about them in the current car ecosystem. I’ll grant there’s a possibility of that, but that doesn’t mean much when the competition has already delivered.
