Comment by Grapho@lemmy.ml on "leftists"

You can call it “nuance” all you want, it doesn’t change that such a critical stance is always rooted in state department propaganda.

Western “leftists” trust imperialists more than foreign PoC, which surprises nobody.

So instead, we should trust… The other ogliarchic and blatantly fascist empires?

Call me crazy, but I don’t think unapologetic fascism is “leftist.”

Why do you believe the US and anglophone-media when they demonize their main enemies, and say that they’re no different? You should take anything a serial liar says with an extreme grain of salt.

Then how did you come by that particular conclusion? Because if it’s not just out and out racism, surely you can link it to verify it’s not just a State Department proxy going “Anonymous sources confirm ALL minorities in China being tortured right the fuck now”

What conclusion are you proposing that I came to? My only statement was that denying Western media in favor of Eastern media is not “leftist.” Everything else you and Dessalines have attempted to drag into this discussion is creating either a false dichotomy or a strawman, in some cases both. The options are not “either you listen to PoC or you listen to Western Media,” because not all Western Media nor people of colour agree on every position. Whatever imaginary propaganda you are creating about the State suggesting that China is torturing minorities this minute is not something I have experienced, nor referenced. We have not presented the arguments that you are trying to deconstruct.

You are boxing with shadows, throwing fists with invisible monsters in the dark. I’m not sure if it’s our of poor reading comprehension, poor critical thinking skills, or intentional dishonesty, but there’s clearly a bias here that is useless to engage with.

The post is talking about the DPRK and China.

instead, we should trust… The other ogliarchic and blatantly fascist empires?

Plural.

You’re not being sneaky by refusing to state a clear argument and hiding behind liberal platitudes. There is no empire other than the US, and opposition to it is always framed as irredeemable evil and y’all eat it up.

Make an argument, cite your sources, or stop wasting everyone’s time with deflection.

So “fascism” is when not ruled by whites?

Scratch a westolefto and white supremacist bleeds.

I heard this like a decade ago, but it’s still is spot on:

Question: What’s authoritarianism?

Answer: When you tell white people they can’t do imperialism.

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