ID: teen @COMMIEdaughter posted: “please do not use words like “policeman” or “policewoman.” Use gender neutral terms like “tools of the capitalist bourgeoisie and enemy of the people”.”
Until someone assaults you and you’re running like a bitch towards your nearest police station. We need to push for police reform, demeaning and treating them like enemies pre emptively will not help any of your causes, it only entrenches them further as tools of the state instead of protectors of the people (would you protect someone that hates you for no reason other than you are a part of the system, like everyone else?)
Be nice to people, that’s all.
But I don’t see what’s productive about demonizing the police when we both know that the first thing you’ll do when someone breaks into your house or whoops your butt is call the police. Or do you think you can bring justice to perpetrators in your own terms with your own hands?
I wasn’t going to engage, because lets be honest, there’s no point, but I happened to scroll past these the other day, and you’ve given me a good opportunity to use them, and others might enjoy, so:
I only contact the police when it’s absolutely necessary, which is to say I’ve never contacted the police. Cops are only capable of making a situation worse.
If my apartment had a break in, the only reason to call them is to file an insurance claim, which only matters if they walk off with 1 of 4 items worth more than $500. If I were mugged or had my ass beaten, there’s a nonzero chance that I wouldn’t even bother with a hospital let alone cops.
Not what I said at all. I said that because you both participate in society and have no option other than to participate in it you should be empathetic towards them. That’s all.
We need to push for police reform,
Police reform would inevitably mean replacing a significant fraction of the police, because most police officers aren’t qualified to do their supposed jobs.
Yes I agree.
But the notion that no police at all is a good idea is absolutely ridiculous. I can empathize if you live in a place where the police force is fully corrupt but this is systemic, it’s the same thing that causes poor communities to have more crime. Now I could start saying that poor people are criminals and I would be flayed alive (rightfully so), but it is the exact same thing as saying that all cops are criminals or abusers. Some of them are, many of them maybe, and in some places most of them but that in itself is not a problem inherent of the concept of having someone to protect the peace and make sure that rules are followed.
It betrays a real lack of critical thought imo.
More police in an area CAUSES more crime to happen. And what’s our response to higher crime? MORE COPS!
What useful responsibilities they do have could all be replaced by other people. Most of those do not need to be armed hotheads who don’t fully grasp laws they’re supposed to enforce.
Youre right, the police do have a monopoly on violence and will kidnap you for meeting violence with violence, as they can’t have their monopoly or their authority questioned. Although, I don’t consider that a good thing, myself.
The role of the police has and will always be to protect the assets of the rich. Everything else they do is a side hustle to justify their authority. Please dont get me wrong, some of those side hustles are very important but that’s not what they’re for. Nearly every modern police force is built on either or a combination of the British police officer or the American. One started as a private security force to protect wealthy peoples assets from starving people during the bread riots and the other was founded by slave catchers.
Every single police force started out that way and i just don’t think you can build from or reform-away that kind of foundation.
TL:DR: We just need to put the boot on a different foot and surely it’ll stop stepping on our necks!
Yes surely having no police is a good idea. Leopards will definitely not eat your face.
It isn’t preemptive to see cops as our enemy, for they’re already taught to view the public as an enemy. The reform we need isn’t even what gets discussed by anybody who wants to “work” with police.
Public safety needs to be gutted and rebuilt from the ground up, with cops only handling situations where someone might need to die. There is no non-lethal violence. Any instance of cops using any form of violence carries the risk of someone dying. We shouldn’t expect them to be anything but violence machines; a last resort to any issue, not part of a front line.
If their unions don’t hate you, you’re never gonna actually accomplish anything. It’s not a good strategy to ally with people who get upset at being anti-cop. In the US, politicians who say “fuck the police” are better off than any respectability politician. We’ve heard nothing but meaningless platitudes for years, and people are tired of it. The “safe” politicians have provided no safety, and people are too scared to trust them any longer.
