Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit… anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I’m sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don’t even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren’t gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I’m not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I’m specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

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It’s not just the pro-trump stuff though, there’s also the case of being very pro-cop in that they helped get info about a french activist against their will or settings, we believe.

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God, I can’t believe people are still spreading this nonsense. Proton complied with a legal warrant. Name another company on the planet that will receive a legal warrant and refuses to comply. I’ll wait.

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And the fact that their internal information even can reveal any information indicates a lack of true privacy. Here is an example of setting up a system so you cannot comply.

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how the fuck do you run an email provider without storing anything on disk, first of all?

next point is mullvad is ready to close shop if that’s what they need to do after a raid. but of you’re storing people’s data for their request basically, like Proton, you can’t just do that because everyone will be mad for losing their data and access to the email service.

finally, Proton does provide a way to use their services in secret, as they run their onion site. login over Tor, done. but probably also create the account over Tor, and never log in through clearnet with that account

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Mullvad doesn’t host email. The warrant pertained to emails, not a VPN.

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k.

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sure, they must have shut down all services instead, that would have been the real solution!!

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Unironically this.

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That definitely sounds concerning, do you have a link or anything? Any company would have to comply with a legal court order regardless of their preference or ideology, so how they comply comes down to the amount of information they store and for how long. Just saying, the fact that they helped the cops (as much as I hate the cops in general) doesn’t necessarily mean they handed everything over or volunteered anything they weren’t legally obligated to provide. But I don’t know the specifics of the case you mentioned.

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Yes, about this case of I remember well they provided the IP address of the activists.

Any email provider has to follow the law and will have to provide the information they have. The only diffidence of that in the case of proton the information they have is the IP address you used to connect to their service. For another provider the information might be all the content of your email.

The imprompted praise to Trump from proton CEO on the other hand is more concerning.

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Thank you!

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I’m an anarchist so inherently against governments etc. So I would, I don’t comply with cops of my own free will.

Having something taken from me against my will is not complying.

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