I know it’s not just me but could others here comment? On meat or not.

I find often I need to exercise, I’m just itching to use my resistance training set until failure (and then, after an hour resist doing it again) or go for a bike ride - it’s a half hour up hill ride from here to most places I go, and I’ll ride hard to the top of that hill and see what speed I can get on the way back, just to burn off what feels like excess energy

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Yes! Doing very low carb had given me huge energy boots compared to when I fall off the wagon. Just itching to get out and go

Lchf vs carnivore, I think I have the same Energy either way.

After 3 months I think I top out my vim and vigor.

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Under keto I couldn’t do nearly as much. I’m progressing well on the resistance exercises, and I’m faster each time I ride

On keto I didn’t advance and I was tired all the time. I think it’s because I wasn’t eating enough

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Interesting; How different is your carnivore diet from keto?

For me I just removed the avocados and stopped trying to find “keto bread”, or “keto pizza”… meaning I was already doing a 500g of ground beef and liver on carnivore. I just removed the other stuff. Maybe thats why I felt fine on both?

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Keto for me had quite a bit of low carb veg. I think some of those didn’t agree with me given how much better I feel on zero carb

I never did the keto fake foods, I think I have been doing low carb on and off since I was 20, I’m now 47

My carnivore diet has been scotch fillet steak (rib eye), eaten until satisfied, and often about 4 eggs a day. My “too much fat” thing I think was because I had fallen into a one meal a day pattern, and it’s hard to process a day’s fat in a single dose

While I was fat I ate leaner cuts

I buy my meat as whole prime cuts, I need to up my frozen storage space so I can instead get a whole cow

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Doing very low carb had given me huge energy boots

Whhaaat—you got energy boots? All I rolled was high uric acid.

Serious though, I felt like my gas tank would empty a lot quicker. I always hoped it would give me that kind of boost, but the closest I got was a tangential motivational boost from dropping pesky weight that I had trouble dropping otherwise–the flirt with gout (with what I was eating, anyway) did happen though.

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I had gout while I was on carbs, I couldn’t go off allopurinol until I had given up carbs completely. Now I haven’t had any medications for ages.

A thing I have heard, but I can’t place where, is that all the super muscle youtube carnivores have high uric acid, so there’s a hypothesis that success in strength training is better with high uric acid.

Anyway eating only meat animal sourced foods (I also eat eggs) appears to protective against gout, I still have high uric acid, as bad as when I put on allopurinol, but now I don’t get gout.

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“Comorbidities associated with gout include hypertension, diabetes mellitus, renal disease and morbid obesity ” citation

“A systematic review and meta-analysis from 2008 further support that alcohol and fructose may be greater contributors to hyperuricemia than meat consumption” citation

“NLRP3 is inhibited by colchicine, a historic treatment for acute gout episodes. The same inhibitory effect has been observed with the ketone bodies β-hydroxybutyrate and acetoacetate” citation

Gout goes hand in hand with insulin resistance. Uric acid by itself is not a problem, in fact its necessary for the functioning of a healthy body (peoples bodies produce something like 8x more uric acid a day then you could possibly eat), its the ability of the body to regulate it and prevent it from precipitating into the joints that is the major issue with gout.

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How long were you doing lchf? Did you measure your ketones?

There is data showing that lchf can be protective against gout, I can dig it up if your interested

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