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I took it as ā€œdonā€™t pretend we donā€™t have censorship tooā€

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Saying ā€œthere is censorship hereā€ in no way implies ā€œthere is not censorship thereā€

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But wtf? Censorship isnā€™t when someone prevents unhinged personal attacks? Why is ā€œfree speechā€ not the ability to report on corruption, but now about being able to use hate speech and shit? Itā€™s never been the case and not hard to differentiate between them

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Itā€™s false equivalence though, although with the election of shadow president Musk itā€™s getting a bit more hazy.

Even so, one is an (admittedly hugely influential) private company and the other is the actual single-party government dictating what speech is allowed.

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one is an (admittedly hugely influential) private company and the other is the actual single-party government

The US has been governed by public-private partnerships for centuries. Trying to draw a line between the industry administrators that get promoted into every crevice of public sector bureaucracy and the elected politicians who depart office to serve as lobbyists and board members of private firms is a foolā€™s errand.

Do we celebrate Chris Dodd the Senator and denounce Chris Dodd the chairman of and chief lobbyist for the MPAA? Do we applaud Hank Paulson the Treasury Secretary and denounce Hank Paulson the CEO of Goldman Sachs?

Americans seem to have no trouble drawing a straight line between Singapore-incorporated ByteDance and the Chinese Communist Party. Why canā€™t they see the connection between Howard Lutnick or Linda McMahon or Betsy DeVos or Elaine Chao and the businesses they own and operate?

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Hey youā€™ll get no argument from me. Iā€™m on Lemmy for a reason. But itā€™s still not the same as just straight up ā€œthe government decides what is thoughtcrimeā€

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When all of the companies do it and they do as they are told by daddy Samā€¦ What is the difference.

The only difference I see is that they donā€™t send you to gulag in US unless you really make some dear leader life uncomfortable.

Americans still do a lot of self censorship. Anything Israel related gets modded into shot on normie socials.

Luigi is prolly best exampleā€¦ They are suppressing that across all media, fake news and socialā€¦ How is this different from shepoohs bullshit?

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Iā€™m not defending the bad things our government does. But do we see mass arrests of people wearing Luigi shirts? Will you be denied a passport as a result of posting some critical message on social media? I had friends, very average unimportant people, who were detained for days at a Chinese airport for having a social media history showing support for Taiwan. Itā€™s not the same thing.

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