Comment by Zozano@aussie.zone on SOMEONE THINK OF THE GAMERS!

Yasuke is actually a fantastic choice as far as history/narrative goes.

A shame the game looks like more generic Assassin’s Creed Mapfucking+Crowd Supermurder.

Which is fine if that’s your thing, but I haven’t been thrilled by an AC game since… well, AC1.

The problem I have with having Yasuke as a main character is as follows:

Assassins Creed at its core has always been about exploring cultures through their most iconic time period, from the perspective of a person from that culture, with an exception of AC3, where the main character’s mother was Native American and father was white, but done so to explore the history around colonialism.

I welcome the idea of an Assassins Creed game within central Africa with an African man/woman as its lead, but I think we can all intuitively understand how wrong it would be to give one of the leading roles to a white character.

I like how we aren’t allowed to be bummed that we dont get to pick someone more representative of that culture. Thats racism right? Or reverse-racism?

Literally my first reaction seeing that picture is, “well thats an odd choice”.

Then pick the Japanese woman…?

Japanese women aren’t capable of representing their culture or what?

I’m sure men and women were treated exactly the same in that period of time in Japan, so surely you have made an excellent point.

Samurai women were expected to train with the naginata. A samurai woman would not be expected to travel and fight, but she would be expected to die protecting her household.

Also, like 16th-17th century samurai were all gay as fuck. Women were for making babies with, the most honorable and respectable love was of that between two men serving as retainers of the same master.

I’d love to play as the “gay as fuck” as you say samurai of the 16th and 17th century, if thats actually true.

I’ll keep digging for my copy of English translations of 16th century gay samurai love stories, but this practice is described on Wikipedia.

I have a wonderful little book that was published in English in the 50’s or 60’s - has a warning that the material is prurient and shouldn’t be in the wrong hands. The speculation in the prologue is that Asians look more feminine (well, they used the term “mongoloid features”) and thus that Asian men are more likely to be attracted to each other. Almost all of the stories end up with the samurai tragically killing themselves, which indicates the “bury your gays” trope predates television (I jest.)

My favorite is of a man encountering a former lover who has been reduced to prostitution and disease. He cares for his lover, and I think they die together. Another incentive to find the damn book.

Oof, I missed this before and obliquely gave you too much credit. I thought you at least cared enough about face to not air your complaint as “but I want to be a boy in this particular video game.”

Just read my other comments in this post. I can’t even be arsed with you lot anymore.

I’m far more interested in what a Japanese person who grew up during the time experienced than someone who was barely there for 3 years. I likely won’t play the game though since assassins creed has been awful, it just seems like a ridiculous character choice. He would make far more sense as an NPC character, I dont recall previous games allowing real life people as the playable characters anyhow.

Japanese women aren’t treated the same as men today, let alone in that time period which is the 15th century …

Yeah, true.

What does that have to do with what was being discussed? They asked for a playable option of someone of the “appropriate ethnicity” to represent the culture (and I’m not even qualified to explain that kettle of worms). There is one, she’s also a woman.

They didn’t ask for a “playable, ethnically-and-culturally Japanese character that is primed to interact with and take advantage of the stupendously patriarchal system of AC Shadow’s era of Japan, i.e. a Japanese man”. Possibly because they realized how bonkers it would be to request that. And a patriarchally-advantaged playable character has hardly core to the identity of AC, to be making a stink now.

But what if I want to play a Japanese man in the Japanese Assassins Creed game?

Then you’re shit-out-of-luck, the same as you would be if you wanted to play Uncharted as Lara Croft.

That wasn’t an option this game happened to provide you.

Nor was it what was being discussed, presumably because most people petutantly wailing “I wanted to play this game but as a guy!” realize how daft that sounds. Just play a different game. It won’t even be that good anyway.

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