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Hm.

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=ableist&year_start=1990&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3

They could be in 4th grade in 2010, and be 25 now posting this. I could also believe that elementary school teachers could be among the first 5% of people to adopt a new super-inclusive type of brand new lefty language that’s just starting to be used for a new type of friendly inclusiveness in 2000.

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Makes sense.

I’m about 10 years older and have never heard the term in person, only in lefty online communities like Lemmy. I even took an ASL class from a deaf person (highly recommend, though maybe my teacher just rocked) as an adult with my SO, and we didn’t even use the term “ablism,” but instead just “hearing” to describe people who aren’t deaf (so the concept, not the term). That would’ve been mid to late 2010s, IIRC.

Couple that with the claimed suspension in 4th grade, and I have serious doubts any of this happened. To get suspended, you need to be starting fist fights or something, even cussing or intentionally insulting people would probably only land normal detention.

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So as someone hard of hearing, please don’t get your understanding of disabled Americans from the deaf, we’re opinionated in ways that folks like the blind and mobility assisted don’t really see and can’t really go along with. We are however starting to talk about audism but you aren’t really going to see talk of audism in an asl class. Maybe the term will be used in the context of mainstreaming.

But yeah this is veering into cultural correctness vs political correctness.

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blind… don’t really see

I see what you did there. sorry

And yeah, the thing that surprised me by dipping my toes in the water was how vibrant the deaf community is. It’s an entire subculture that most won’t get to experience. I think it’s awesome.

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elementary school teachers could be among the first 5% of people to adopt a new super-inclusive type of brand new lefty language

Elementary school teachers are also more likely to crack down on any sort of insulting language in general. I remember when I was a kid in the 4th grade, our teacher would punish us for asking, “So?” So was short for ‘So what?’ At the time it was (sometimes properly, give me a break, Mrs. H) a way to insultingly say that someone else’s statement was meaningless.

It wasn’t because it was ableist, or anything else you could point a finger to except insulting, and teachers head that sort of interaction off early.

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Interesting!

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