Networks with a foreign actor undermining national sovereignty, which financed several massacres in your country

For the past week the people of China and the United States, as well as other countries have been comparing notes. Debunking propaganda on both sides. Realizing that much of what we’ve all been told for years/decades, has been lies.

I’m not here to defend the Chinese government or anything, but there is an argument to be made that the US has an equivalency to each one of these things.

CCP officials at tech companies - NSA backdoors

Uyghur slaves - Prison labor aka war on drugs

Taiwan - Gaza/Literally any “3rd world” nation with oil

Censorship - Right wing media empires/red state bills targeted to downplay US atrocities taught in schools

Retaliation against protestors - Police brutality Social media censorship - Oligarchs owned social media

I think a lot of people are less falling for Chinese propaganda and more overcoming US propaganda.

’d love to be wrong.

No you wouldn’t. If you were, you’d have listen to the many people that probably have corrected you on all those State Department talking points

EDIT: I just realized feddit blocks both Lemmygrad and Hexbear, so this user cannot see my comment. If anyone wants to use/copy my comment or link directly to it, feel free to do so, I believe I provided enough evidence to debunk most of this user’s sourceless claims. It’s a shame some instances just block us and shows who they truly are.

E: any of you downvoters, feel free to correct me, I’d love to be wrong.

You throw a bunch of claims with zero source and wants to be taken seriously. At least give us the bare minimum before just spewing this much US State Department propaganda.

That being said, I will address some of your points, since someone else might stumble upon this and need an actual answer.

They don’t have CCP officials required by law to work at tech companies and disclose any and all data they acquire?

Keeping a close look on the companies on their country and keeping them on a short leash is good actually. China is not a capitalist hellhole like the US or most of the world, it is a socialist state where the rich does not control the government. Keeping them in check is the right thing to do given their current development level of socialism.

They’re not using Uyghur slaves in their factories?

That’s a new one, so far I have only heard about how they are being genocided. Which you can debunk with a little bit of research: Arab League’s visit to Xinjiang rejects Western accusations of ethnic genocide, religious persecution.

They’re not trying to literally erase Taiwan off the maps?

LMAO, no. Taiwan is part of China, why would China want to erase part of itself off the map? Even the US agrees. The only thing China wants is proper reunification with Taiwan.

They’re not still censoring information about their horrific pasts?

What “horrific past”? Be specific, this vague stance achieves nothing. If you’re talking about Tiananmen Square, here’s a good video about that: The Tiananmen Square “Massacre” Never Happened.

They’re not targeting, retaliating against and kidnapping protestors domestic and abroad?

Again, provide a damn source, I have no idea of what you’re talking about and it is something I never saw anyone claim before.

What I can do tho is bring into attention the names of a few people like Huey P. Newton being killed by the US government and Snowden having to seek asylum abroad after blowing the whistle on the US surveillance state for the world to see. And if that’s not enough, how about Pro-Palestinian protesters clash with US police on second night of DNC and New Report Details How Pro-Palestinian Protests Are Suppressed in Democratic Countries.

They’re not censoring virtually every US social website entirely from the entire country?

No they are not, Microsoft operates in China. Not only that, but they do not explicitly want to simply ban US sites on there, it’s a simple matter of national sovereignty where companies like Facebook and Google refuse to abide by Chinese law, so China simply developed all their tools in-house. Not only that, but Chinese citizens have access to VPNs and can easily access websites abroad that are not usually allowed in China.

Meanwhile the US banned Huawei and tried to ban TikTok when it became apparent they could not control it and that the people were seeing the US for what it truly is, a genocidal state funding Israel in it’s attempt to genocide the Palestinian people.

The last link I posted is a proxy on 12ft.io since The Intercept won’t allow to see the page without registering.

Lmaooo hurting gringos feelings is being racist? Y’all have had concentration camps for longer than you’ve been without them, you know their fucking addresses and they’re still there.

Do forgive me for throwing y’all’s opinions on racism in the dustbin.

You cannot be a serious leftist and pretend to be offended by a little “anti-white” rhetoric.

Actually you didn’t. You listed a bunch of accusations against China (which were refuted, you just ignored that), but you didn’t even try to explain how that’s more oppressive than the USA. Even if all your accusations were true, the US is still more oppressive.

now we’ve got another refutopolis warrior.