Comment by bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net on trans people shouldn't be "serving" in the military anyway. nobody should

military members should be bullied. when one walks into your place of business and asks for a military discount say count dis dick

I take the badempanada line on this: so what! We wouldn’t accept someone becoming a cop or a prison guard to escape poverty, why should we do the same for troops?

This is my line too. It’s more morally acceptable imo to turn to straight up robbing people’s houses to escape poverty than to join the military.

Hell, it’s more moral to sell drugs like crack and heroin than it is to join an imperialist military. At least everyone involved is there because they want to be.

Obviously, you shouldn’t sell drugs because you’re taking advantage of addiction. You’re also complicit in whatever activities your criminal organization takes part in, whether that’s contract killing or pimping. That’s how low the bar is in comparison to being a troop. But no one who’s in the mafia is under any illusions about what it is they do. Trying to convince Americans “Hey, maybe your friends deserved to get shot by the Vietcong,” is a fool’s errand.

Btw the socialists during the chinese civil war were more forgiving towards soldiers than drug dealers. Can not really have an revolution on twitter takes alone.

Think about the context: Opium was a tool of imperialist subjugation of China. Being a drug dealer was being part of that imperialism. America isn’t being imperially subjugated by means of drugs(unless you count the CIA crack thing)

The American government literally floods its own subaltern communities with drugs, it was part of the strategy to destroy black marxism and it is still used to this day. The comparison to Opium is actually quite adapt.

Didn’t the black panthers (and the IRA) have harsh policies towards drugs? The “cia crack thing” is exactly the same strategy as the British opium trade

“And there, always there and ever willing, for a price of course, to meet the addict’s demand for dope is the cop-man, the dealer, purveyor of poison, distributor of death, merciless, murdering scum, of the planet, vile capitalists, salesmen of death on the installment plan, the dope pusher, the plague-man.”

“We are the only ones capable of eradicating the plague from our communities. It will not be an easy task. It will require tremendous effort. It will have to be a revolutionary program, a people’s program. The Black Panther Party is presently in the process of formulating a program to combat the plague. It will be controlled totally by the people. We, the people, must stamp out the plague, and we will. Dope is a form of genocide in which the victim pays to be killed.”

I could be wrong but this seems pretty clear

https://www.marxists.org/history/usa/workers/black-panthers/1970/dope.htm

You’re both right.

Drug-dealing is a crime against the working class and the Chinese socialists along with the Black Panthers were so negatively impacted that they had no tolerance for it in their revolutionary praxis.

That doesn’t mean that a petty dealer deserves the same ire as US military members. If that were the case, every convenience store clerk is also an agent of reaction and death. Maybe you were specifically talking about opium? Even still, the other poster was also being bombastic rather than writing a thesis.

In the context of China, the drug dealers were traitors who collaborated with imperialists (where did they get the opium from) while the soldiers (presumably you meant soldiers in the Nationalist army) were literally kidnapped from their villages and forced at gunpoint to put on a Nationalist uniform. Not remotely comparable.

Do you think there might be some historical background that coloured chinese civil war socialists thoughts on drug dealers?

Yes? Your assumption that I just wrote out that statement without knowledge of the historical context, reflects quite negative on you.

So why’s this a twitter take then. Was that meant positively?

Are the soldiers in the Chinese civil war comparable to the American army today? Totally agree on the drugs issue, it feels more like accepting Japanese defectors than Chinese nationalists

somehow i grew up poor without even once being tempted to sign up as a mercenary for corporations to kill random brown people

Hmm sounds like you’re a superhuman with obscene standards we can’t possibly use to judge the poor widdle imperialism facilitators

yankee chauvinism mostly

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trans people shouldn't be "serving" in the military anyway. nobody should

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