“If the purges [of potential voters], challenges and ballot rejections were random, it wouldn’t matter. It’s anything but random. For example, an audit by the State of Washington found that a Black voter was 400% more likely than a white voter to have their mail-in ballot rejected. Rejection of Black in-person votes, according to a US Civil Rights Commission study in Florida, ran 14.3% or one in seven ballots cast.”

"[…] Democracy can win* despite the 2.3% suppression headwind.

And that’s our job as Americans: to end the purges, the vigilante challenges, the ballot rejections and the attitude that this is all somehow OK."

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The problem is that a lot of people, also on here equate people saying that “this is going to alienate voters” with saying “this is going to alienate me”, and then go into personal attacks of “are Republicans better then?” or “you’re the problem because you don’t vote”.

Centrists only did that because in all cases, they supported the behavior that was alienating voters and didn’t want it to change. Even if that meant trump again.

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I wouldn’t even say that, it’s just there really were a lot of trolls going “whatabout?”, especially here, as some people want the US to fall, and honestly Trump is the best candidate for that. Mix in a bunch of other trolls screaming “bluemaga” for the heck of it, and you couldn’t have a decent conversation anymore.

I’m just saying we shouldn’t fall into the trap of going into a circlejerk again, it’s past the election, it would be great to have the conversations that are needed but we couldn’t have before the election. There are some great people in the Dem party as well, again, Lina Khan’s work was inspiring, and despite recent events, it did make a huge difference. We need more people like her.

And on the other hand, Luigi has shown that there is a broad societal base wanting this constant madness to end. People just want to live, all people, even Republicans.

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it’s past the election, it would be great to have the conversations that are needed but we couldn’t have before the election.

The “we can’t have this conversation right now” thing was a fucking excuse to continue enabling the genocide. Centrists will never admit they were horribly, monstrously wrong to support genocide.

It’s all they ever were, and all they will ever be.

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That is it though, where are all those “we can’t have this conversation right now” people now? This is the time to have the conversation. Hello?

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