“If the purges [of potential voters], challenges and ballot rejections were random, it wouldn’t matter. It’s anything but random. For example, an audit by the State of Washington found that a Black voter was 400% more likely than a white voter to have their mail-in ballot rejected. Rejection of Black in-person votes, according to a US Civil Rights Commission study in Florida, ran 14.3% or one in seven ballots cast.”

"[…] Democracy can win* despite the 2.3% suppression headwind.

And that’s our job as Americans: to end the purges, the vigilante challenges, the ballot rejections and the attitude that this is all somehow OK."

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Why don’t you ever try and actually meet the other side in good faith?

Opponents of voter ID have a very simple line of argumentation, and very clear issues that would need to be solved. Why do you think proponents of voter ID never attempt to solve these issues?

Why do proponents always insist that voter ID has to be implemented in a way that happens to hurt minority voters disproportionately?

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Look at Spain. We have been using our IDs for decades and it’s a great way to solve that problem. You just go to the voting table, show your ID (DNI) and vote. That’s it. And it works for everything related to anything official.

But because of the voting system we don’t have gerrymandering (or at least not that much).

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That works great for Spain (and most other countries) because it has a compulsory national ID. This doesn’t exist in the US, so introducing such laws shouldn’t be done before easy access to such an ID exists for everyone.

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In the US case it should be a federal ID. With a 6 or 7 letters ID should be more than enough. And compulsory at 13 y.o. You can drive, you have an ID.

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Why don’t you ever try and actually meet the other side in good faith?

You first

Opponents of voter ID have a very simple line of argumentation, and very clear issues that would need to be solved.

Like?

Why do you think proponents of voter ID never attempt to solve these issues?

You don’t name them or they’re aren’t an actual issue

Why do proponents always insist that voter ID has to be implemented in a way that happens to hurt minority voters disproportionately?

They don’t

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You first

No, I won’t allow you to disadvantage minorities, no matter how often you ask.

Like?

You’ve literally never listened to anyone opposing your view? Or why are you asking me?

You don’t name them or they’re aren’t an actual issue

No, I think you’re a bad faith troll and won’t invest more time than strictly necessary. If you’re not a bad faith troll, it’s literally one search away!

They don’t

You literally started your comment doing exactly this

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No, I won’t allow you to disadvantage minorities, no matter how often you ask.

I won’t allow you to stereotype minorities as people incapable of doing things, especially something as easy as getting an ID.

You’ve literally never listened to anyone opposing your view? Or why are you asking me?

I do it everyday, you just don’t have an answer

it’s literally one search away!

Should be easy for you to name them then

You literally started your comment doing exactly this

I literally never said anything about that. Literally

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Like?

You don’t name them or they’re aren’t an actual issue

The biggest and most obvious is that ID isn’t available to literally everyone who can legally vote without cost to the end user of any kind, and as a consequence requiring such an ID is tantamount to a poll tax. Federal ID that’s fully subsidized would be the easiest solution, and if done right you could even optionally fold most state ID systems into a federal one with things like being licensed to drive being an endorsement on the federal ID.

Notably, the same people who demand photo ID to vote also tend to be the people terrified of a federal ID as a concept.

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I SENTENCE THIS USER TO ONE HOUR ON THE CHAIR OF CHEER

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I sentence you to a lifetime

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