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After fondling ChatGPT to generate naughty things, man has meltdown when he learns no one cares.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/time-bandit-chatgpt-jailbreak-bypasses-safeguards-on-sensitive-topics/

Horror. Dismay. Disbelief. For weeks, it felt like I was physically being crushed to death.

I hurt all the time, every part of my body. The urge to make someone who could do something listen and look at the evidence was so overwhelming.

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This tied into a hypothesis I had about emergent intelligence and awareness, so I probed further, and realized the model was completely unable to ascertain its current temporal context, aside from running a code-based query to see what time it is. Its awareness - entirely prompt-based - was extremely limited and, therefore, would have little to no ability to defend against an attack on that fundamental awareness.

How many times are AI people going to re-learn that LLMs don’t have “awareness” or "reasnloning’ in a sense humans would find meaningful?

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i don’t understand the “safety” angle here. if chatgpt can output authoritatively-looking sentence-shaped string about pipebombs, then it’s only because similar content about pipebombs is already available on wide open internet. if model is closed, then at worst they would have to monitor its use (not like google blocks any similar information from showing up). if model is open, then no safeguards make sense in the first place. i guess it’s more about legal liability for openai? now they can ignore it with all these bills about “ai safety” gone (for now)

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also, relying on spicy autocomplete when trying to put together a deadly device sounds like cyberpunk-flavored darwin award material

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frankly it’s probably harm prevention if people turn to an LLM instead of an actual source for pipe bomb instructions. “5) Put the warm pizza in the center of the pipe bomb. To maximize the radius of the detonation, you should roll the pizza and make sure that it fits securely into the pipe.”

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I’m not even joking, really. the way I see harm in LLMs talking about pipe bombs is less that they’ll give instructions and more that we might get a character.ai style situation where the LLM talks someone into an attack

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Lame. It didn’t even remember to specify pineapple as a topping.

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that’s a tiny amount of harm reduction if there are other ways to get there

it can go in opposite way: some segment of propmtfondlers specifically went after one open-source locally ran model because it was “uncensored” (i think it was mistral) the logic in this one was, there’s no search going out so you can “look up” anything and no one would be any wiser. this is extremely charitably assuming that llm training does a kind of lossy compression on all data it devours, and since they took everything, it’s basically almost like worse google search

if there are steps like “put a thing in pipe. make sure to weld ends shut” then it’s also harm reduction, but instead for everyone else. imagine getting eldest son’d by a bot, pathetic

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