that seems about right, and “this anti-cult information source isn’t actually anti-cult, it’s a competing cult you should avoid” is a pretty common form it can take. it’s very convenient for the cultists, because it defuses criticism without engaging with it, by keeping all thought within the framework of the cult. the idea that we all organically stumbled upon Rationalist ideas (or were exposed to them through our friends or industry) and wholesale rejected them, must be eliminated as a possibility. we must have an ulterior motive that can’t be summed up as “hahaha holy shit look at these assholes” — or else the cult has to accept that a lot of people legitimately hold the idea that Rationalists and Zizians and all of Yud’s other ideological children are in fact fucking assholes.

my take too - someone hoping to make proxy use of the bigot wave that ngo is currently attempting whipping up with his fake panic

second warning: an xcancel search for “zizians” turns up so much transphobia that you’ll feel like it’s a late night on the Nebuchadnezzar and Tank accidentally loaded your brain with JK Rowling instead of kung fu.

thats the one! doesn’t look like a rat either.

Perhaps for dull disclosure (typo but left it in), we should explain who Brent Dill is? (Wasnt he the guy who was no longer welcome at events due to abuse? Sorry correction, one of the guys we know about, we dont know about the secret list of people who are no longer welcome Scott once talked about)