You’re spun around, flipped upside-down, and confused as can be.

Very compelling, but have you considered

Tankie is a term that specifically refers to one particular kind of communism

No, it’s used to refer a wide, vague blob of vibes, just like the word woke. The people who use it can can do use it to refer to all kinds of communists, most anarchists, and anything to the left of Elizabeth Warren in general.

that try to impose communism through the use of force.

As opposed to the kind of communism where you ask nicely for revolution? Have you actually read any Marx? I guarantee he was not a pacifist.

You can be a communist and not be a tankie

By your own definition you cannot, let alone by a definition of tankie that describes how libs actually use it.

Tankie is a term that specifically refers to one particular kind of communism

Nope, tankie originally referred specifically to British labor party members supporting the USSR’s actions against the coup in Hungary, and today is used to refer to any anti-imperialist leftist, regardless of tendency. Of course all of you claim otherwise, but these claims are provably empty, as nobody who uses the term today, including you in this thread, bothers to check for the actual political views of the people you call tankie, you see something that may go against the state department narratives that are spoonfed to you by V*ush and the reddit front page or whoever else has done this pseudo-leftist brainworming to you and you start yelling tankie at the top of your liberal, western-chauvinist lungs. A good number of the people posting on hexbear are anarchists and DemSocs, but you will label all of them tankie as long as they critically support China or question the narrative on the new forever war in Ukraine, which to you equals “thinking today’s Russia is true communism” and similar nonsense. Your understanding of politics is damaged beyond repair by being socialized as a smartass debatelord who has become entirely incapable of forming judgements not based on learned reflex and of engaging in good faith conversations. I would pity you if people like you wouldn’t be such a disaster for the Western left and for anybody in the Global South suffering from the continued imperialism you help enable by fighting the last genuine critics of genocidal US policies that are left in the West. You CIA tool, you psyop casualty, you neocon bootlicker.

person above wasnt claiming to be the sole arbiters, dumb comment

il take the largest communist projects in the world, the word of millions + people who study marxism and practice it in reality everyday over a liberal who would struggle to define the word ‘socialism’ and whos political education starts and ends with there high school history class + 10 years spent on /r/politics

What have you actually done to help socialism then?

Are you a union organiser? Are you in a union? Which one? What party are you in? What projects do you support? What are you actually doing as a socialist? Other than voting for a liberal party every few years I mean.

Sure you can have an opinion, but if its about something you know nothing about, and have not investigated then it is worthless. Not just to other people, but to yourself as well

China doing good in the world while America does bad does imply that though.

They’re saying that your take is so incoherent that you need to develop a foundational understanding of the basics.

Before you can learn calculus, you need to learn arithmetic so you don’t end up saying things like 2 != sqrt(4)

Socialism isn’t an intellectual idea though. It’s not an idea we put on the world, it’s a real movement that abolishes the present state of things.

Have you read lenin, mao, sankara, deng, marx or any sociological text on neo-marxism?

Why are you letting libs define everything? You and I both know they’re dumbasses and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

Yeah I’m sure everyone in the lemmyverse is using the word tankie to refer to those of us who support the 1956 Soviet intervention in Hungary /s

Anyone could have said the same to Marx about communism at any point in his life, as he died before the October revolution.

the difference is you named a bunch of dead ideologies that will never be revived, ML is literally the only form of marxism still flourishing