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Donald Trump’s popularity among Generation Z voters has sharply declined since the 2024 election, according to a new Economist/YouGov poll.

His net favorability among 18-29-year-olds has dropped from +19 in November to -18, raising concerns for Republicans about sustaining youth support.

While Trump gained ground with young voters in 2024, recent policies—such as his mass deportation plan and targeting of DEI initiatives—may have contributed to this decline.

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you have to consciously consume it though, as a consumer of information and media, you hold a responsibility to ensure that what you’re consuming is both good, and factually accurate. If you aren’t doing that, that’s your fault.

People can argue all they want about content algorithms pushing this content, it’s because it’s good content, that’s why its fucking propaganda. It wouldn’t be if it didn’t.

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You really don’t have to consciously consume it. You can literally leave auto-play on YouTube and it will steadily pull you down the rabbit hole. These people aren’t logging in to nazi.com and ravenously looking for content (at least most aren’t).

It’s served directly to them in mainstream platforms, prepared exactly how they like it. And they’re the first generation to be bombarded by this algorithmic targeting for their entire lives.

Should adults still be responsible for what they consume and analyzing it critically? Of course. But given we’re in unprecedented territory and this is (at most) their second time voting in a presidential cycle, I’ll give them a mulligan.

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You really don’t have to consciously consume it. You can literally leave auto-play on YouTube and it will steadily pull you down the rabbit hole. These people aren’t logging in to nazi.com and ravenously looking for content (at least most aren’t).

maybe if you have degenerative brain damage, or are asleep, otherwise yes, you are making the conscious choice to watch nazis talk about nazi things for 3 hours, that’s literally something you consciously engage with simply by listening to, or even looking at.

This is why it’s so important to be conscious of the media you’re consuming, in the same way it’s important to be conscious about the products you’re buying and the services you’re using.

I’ll give them a mulligan.

look bro, all i’m saying is that you don’t accidentally become a nazi, if i gave you a knife, and told you to murder somebody, and walked away, you wouldn’t do that, you would probably call the police on me because that’s really fucking weird.

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No, they’re making a conscious choice to use the platform. The content itself is whatever pops up and looks entertaining.

If the algorthim shows you 2 center-right videos, 3 hard-right videos, and one nazi rant then are you choosing to be a nazi by watching the center right ones?

Its never actually 3 hours of nazi things. Its an otherwise entertaining video making some off color jokes. It’s a streamer going on one politically dubious rant in a 6 hour stream. It’s a weekly podcast talking to “interesting” people; some benign, some funny, some actual problems… It’s about normalizing the conversation and the ideas. Nobody is getting handed a knife.

Yeah, there are some people take the red pill and actively go down the conspiracy rabbit hole and watch nazi shit. But I’m not gonna go out of my way to crucify people who have shitty ideas in their head at some point, there are lots of people that have stories of escaping the funnel.

Because at the end of the day a vote is just voicing an opinion to most people.

I was told tariffs aren’t a bad idea”… “Musk has points that there might be wasteful spending”… “Well Rogan endorsed him haha”…

If they were told they’re getting drafted to invade Greenland before they voted, they look at you the same way as the knife guy.

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If it’s a human failing then no, it should be regulated against to prevent abuse.

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there are definitely arguments to regulate against it, i’m not here to make those arguments, or argue against it, i’m just here to argue that you as an individual person have a right to hold yourself responsible for the media you consume, it’s not difficult, it’s taught to you in high school, assuming you can read and write, if you went to college, great, you literally do that the entire time you’re there, that’s the one thing you should be doing.

If you don’t and you work in a blue collar job, it probably requires similar attention from you in the same manner, just apply it universally.

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I realize that I, as an individual can make choices and am responsible for those choices. I’m not here to talk about that today, I’m only referring to the fact that when a natural human failing is set upon by money men with the intention of exploitation it is only regulation or destruction that will end that exploitation.

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People don’t want to hear the truth. Look at the sales on fiction vs. non-fiction.

That’s not a problem in most media because most of the time people are honest about what’s fiction and what’s non-fiction.

On social media, people have these para-social relationships with the people making the content that makes them want the content creators to be “authentic”. Problem is the algorithms don’t select for actual authenticity, because people prefer fiction over reality. So instead people making content need to appear to be authentic to get the para-social juice, but give people fiction because that’s what people really want.

Adults who remember the times before social media became dominant are better equipped to understand the distinction between the fiction social media presents us from reality. To those raised on this content, what’s on social media is reality.

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Adults who remember the times before social media became dominant are better equipped to understand the distinction between the fiction social media presents us from reality.

I really do think (fear) that may be true, and that’s probably why I go on about teaching media literacy and critical thinking (most especially spotting logical fallacies) so much.

I already think many that were around before social media were ill-equipped as-is (as an example - how many people think “reality television” is not heavily edited and heavily scripted? That artifice came on the scene before social media did and many were and are duped by it); I worry even more about people raised on it, many of them foolishly thinking that knowing their way around apps and certain sites makes them more “media-savvy”, thinking that “my generation” just gets this like no other when it’s definitely a prior generation that has handed them these things.

This kind of thinking - that your generation is somehow uniquely equipped like no other prior human beings before - is complete delusion. It’s not like this conceit is confined to gen alpha or z or whatever, either - virtually every generation has their version of it.

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This kind of thinking - that your generation is somehow uniquely equipped like no other prior human beings before - is complete delusion

to be completely devils advocate here, the human mind is not a static blob of inputs and outputs, it’s a variable soup of neurons with connections between different neurons as they try and establish patterns and reasons between things. People who have grown up today, compared to people who grew up 200 years ago, are quite literally fundamentally different. Every generation is raised differently to the previous, it’s why every generation behaves differently to the previous generations. It’s just that the difference is less significant than most would think.

The entire reason why “post truth society” is even a thing now is because of this fundamental operation of human psychology, shit changes, and we change with the shit.

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People don’t want to hear the truth. Look at the sales on fiction vs. non-fiction.

This is an unfair comparison, it’s like taking university textbook sales and comparing it to the bible and going “clearly people don’t want science and data!”

To be fair, it is probably a true statement, if you were to analyze the content and media that people consume, it’s likely to be very low in “hard facts” so i will give you that one, i just think it’s an unreasonable comparison to be making.

A lot of the big sales in non-fiction (at least the heavily fact valued ones) are going to be books about like, psychology, sociology, math, science, biology, the one weird guy who wrote 20 books on trains because he has an extremely bizarre knowledge based on like three specific trains in general, probably a book about a plane as well, because why not. And a handful of other boring educational books, shit like cookbooks, machining, manufacturing, etc…

I’m not sure how much “based on a true story” bleeds into non-fiction, but i’m basing on a strict separator so.

To those raised on this content, what’s on social media is reality.

and to be fair, that’s because it literally is, modern social life has moved to social media, people are lonelier than ever, there’s a reason for it.

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