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Hegseth, Musk and Vance have effectively declared NATO is dead as far as US is concerned. The only interest they have with europe is pilfering and looting your resources.

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How ironic that the only country to actually invoke Article 5 and receive NATO assistance under it is the one that’s now ditching NATO.

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NATO by and large has been a tool of America to make Europe subservient to it, rather than an equal ally.

People forget that the cold war was all about two countries trying to carve the world up into their own ideologies. America’s was the better option for a while, But Now they’re no option.

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the same cannot be said for vladimir putin

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Putin is an old man who fantasises about eras bygone, hes a conniving and sneaky person with ultimately very simple and untintelligent goals.

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i do not contest any of that, and still, europe cannot defend itself against him. the only reason ukraine has been able to hold their own is whith massive and regular shipments of us weaponry. something europe has never stockpiled, nor developed the means of fabricating, in enough quantity to make even a token defense against the russian war machine. these are fact.

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