The talk about “enshittification” made me think of the very email we use for the instances we signed up and instantly, it paints a grim picture. One of my account used gmail to sign up. Some proton mail. It reminds me that these too are companies beholden to their shareholders.
Is there a fediverse answer to email? Like what mastodon is to twitter and lemmy is for reddit?
If not, maybe the fediverse can think about allowing email-less sign-ups?
As an addendum, what about the popular tools we use in our daily lives? The calendar, note tools, etc all are products of companies driven to maximize profits.
There’s a talk in the technology sub about how GitHub was acquired by microsoft and I’m willing to bet that it’s not the only popular tool that was or will be endangered of disappearing or turning worse in the name of profit.
Is there a community movement that can somehow mitigate this? Or is there really no choice for us? Is there a complete list of FOSS somewhere that are at par or at least only mildly worse than the popular mainstream ones?
It’s funny because the way I describe the concept of federation to people is to compare it to email.
“You know how you can email somebody and it doesn’t matter if they’re using Gmail, Yahoo, Exchange, etc? Just apply that concept to other services and that’s what federated means.”
So yeah you can host your own email just like you can host your own mastodon instance, Lemmy, Calckey, kbin, etc.
I’ve been a professional sysadmin for years, including managing email systems covering tens of thousands of users.
Don’t do it.
Find a host you like and just use that. If you have to pay that’s probably better, that (hopefully) means you’ll have a better privacy policy, no ads, etc.
Email as a concept goes back to 1981 with tons of bolt-ons and changes along the way. You’ll go years with everything working fine, then suddenly you’ll find yourself sinking a lot of time into it when something suddenly doesn’t work.
Plus you can have the most modern setup in the world then find yourself dealing with a client that’s using the default sendmail config and refuses to change anything, now you’ve got to create exceptions, blah blah blah.
I don’t know of anything better than the Gmail spam filtering. Is anyone else on par?
Also, any other companies that do push mail to mobile? IMAP seems inefficient having to poll all the time.
I think most other spam filters can get pretty good at you mark mail as spam and train it.
No idea about push. IMAP does have the ability to keep a connection open and get notifications and some mobile clients support that. My guess is, if the provider offers an app they probably support pushing to it somehow.
I’m worried that the recommendation against self hosting email is killing the open web. “Things are too complicated” is a reason for companies to put the services behind walled gardens
Companies (and spammers) already fucked it up. It’s hard to keep your own mailserver of all the big companies black list.
