Comment by lost_screwdriver@thelemmy.club on Used to consume not produce

To be fair: I switched to Linux 6 years ago. I’m using a tiling windowmanager, a lot of custom scripts, a different keyboardlayout with six instead of two layers (great for writing greek math, and other symbols) and an enthusiastic emacs user. I know the my System in and out. As a CS end math student, I know a fair bit about a Computer. But when A sit in front of an ordinary windows PC, I am a little bit upset. I stumble a lot of times over the thought: “You don’t have a keyboard shortcut for this! You have to use the Mouse, to switch Windows or you have to click yourself trough a menu to change this setting. There are no man pages you can search with regex” I hate it!

“an enthusiastic emacs user” Well, there’s your problem! (Sorry, I couldn’t resist the poke)

To be serious, Windows and that mouse are just tools-- same as any Linux distro is. A means to an end. Nothing more. There is nothing to be miffed about when you need to use that tool. Be proficient with all your tools. And when you need to use a tool, don’t be concerned about comparing it to the other tools. It diminishes you skills with that tool and and offers no gain to the solution.

But being stuck using windows when its not the right tool for the job is like having to use a pickaxe when you could be using q jackhammer, only the idiots in procurement don’t like power tools.

Perhaps. But despite using Windows, you got the job done, right? Life is all about using the tools do have, rather than the ones you wished you had.

I mean i guess you must be pretty competent with an abacus then in case you ever get stuck somewhere where they wont let you ise a calculator? Your argument that people should spend time becoming proficient with inferior tools just because they are tools doesn’t really hold up. If something gets the job done better and more efficiently it makes the other tools obsolete. Thats the nature of technology.

I haven’t used an abacus in a very long time, but I haven’t forgotten how to use one. I still have a slide rule that I can still use if I have to, (I come from a time before pocket calculators). I used to race the the younger kids in my classroom to see who could do simple math problems faster-- me and the slide rule or them and a calculator. And my rule in class was that there were no calculators. Well, using fingers was acceptable. Because I wanted you to get your hands dirty playing with the numbers. If you wanted a calculator for a test, I would offer you a slide rule.

As a working adult, you must be proficient will the tools your occupation has. And not just the tools you wish you have. If you are running servers in a Windows based environment, it doesn’t do you any good to wish for Linux based servers. And you better be good with both Windows and Linux if the environment is mixed. And a professional doesn’t complain about their tools, they just use the ones they have to accomplish the job at hand. Of course, if you have the money and power to do the choosing and purchasing of the tools you prefer and want, then by all means buy them. But I doubt that’s the case for you.

It’s because Windows has to save its keyboard combinations for the important things, like opening a new LinkedIn tab.

CTRL - SHIFT - ALT - WIN - L opens linkedin.

Truly only the most useful of functions for this great operating system

Thanks, Captain Obvious. No need to post such common shortcuts like this

It was news to me. But then I haven’t used Windows more than trivially in years.

Gives me even less of a reason now.

I was being sarcastic. If a shortcut requires 5 buttons, it’s it really a shortcut? Press Win to open search and type link will probably also do the same thing

It would probably helpfully suggest LinkedIn after you so much as type the L

Gotcha.

I could totally believe Microsoft did some kind of stupid deal with LinkedIn.

I use Arch (btw) because it’s easy, simple, and beginner friendly

Absolutely lost in Windows, nothing ever works, and the documentation isn’t laid out well. Support is just sfc /scannow

This is why windows is here for a few games and Linux is for everything else.

I think that’s being a bit unfair to Windows. Some of its keyboard shortcuts are stupid, but it does have them. When it doesn’t, the problem is the application.

Some of the legacy keyboard shortcuts still survive to this day.

I live by Windows+R for the run dialogue.

If you populate %userprofile% with shortcuts named after keywords to your commonly used apps (eg fire.lnk for Firefox) then you can just slap Windows+R, type fire, Enter.

Win+X is also great. Especially since the Start Menu doesn’t allow for quick shutdown commands since Win 8.

Generally, you’re totally on point, but I just wanted to drill into that mention about hotkeys for switching windows. You mean something other than alt+tab, ctrl+tab, and in some applications shift+brackets?

Win+Shift+arrow to kick the active window to another monitor is handy when remoting into a PC with multiple monitors.

Also, when did windows get rid of the idea of a primary display? It seems to just open software on whatever screen it feels like now…

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