Just get rid of the charging stations. It’s ridiculous that EV owners should expect to charge their cars anywhere but at home or at work.

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I don’t care about any particular EV brand. Trying to use battery powered EVs for such purposes means that they need to built with heavy, oversized, extra hazardous batteries. The responsible, proper use case for BEVs is short trips with plenty of time for charging at home or work.

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So your suggestion is basically families should own an EV just for getting around home… and a gas guzzler for long distance travel? IMO the ideal should be a slow phase out of the gas cars.

Or you know… instead of needing super heavy batteries… they could have smaller batteries… if charging stations become common enough that people can relatively easily find places to stop and charge on long trips.

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Maybe there’s a battery range/charge time sweet spot, but I think it’s easy to underestimate what common enough would look like. These chargers are going to have to be everywhere and they’re probably not going to be taken care of properly. It’s just more e-waste.

To answer your question: no, that is not my suggestion.

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To answer your question: no, that is not my suggestion.

I mean so what is the suggestion? The post I was responding to made it sound like you were saying you shouldn’t use EV’s outside of short trips near home. Which begs the question what should someone who 99% of the time drives near home, but once a year needs to visit their family for christmas 2 states away.

To me I’m wondering how complex are the chargers… we already have gas stations all over the place. To me it wouldn’t seem super inplausible for say fast chargers that are, reasonably easy to add to say the typical truck stop level gas station. Of which, they’d start with just adding one or 2… as EV’s become more common add more. Would be slowly working towards future proofing the consumer gas side (To my knowledge EV Trucks aren’t in the near future, but every truck stop I’ve been to has also had a huge regular car side)

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Batteries and liquid fuel are both hazardous in terms of catching fire, do you mean something else?

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When these batteries burn, they can’t be put out except by cooling them down somehow because they contain their own oxidizer. So fire departments tend to just let them burn and send whatever metals and other chemicals into the atmosphere. A gasoline fire can be put out with fire suppressants that deprive it of air. Apart from that, the batteries are also hazardous in terms of their manufacturing and disposal lifecycle and also just by making vehicles heavier. Heavier vehicles mean more energetic collisions and they also require bigger brakes, which means more brake dust pollution.

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I think that refers to lithium ion batteries. Some EVs use lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) which can still can catch fire but can be starved of oxygen. Sadly it is heavier but it is made without the immorally sourced cobalt.

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One can use natural gas (usually combined with some amount of gasoline). In terms of safety - if you’ve ever seen gas stations with concrete walls between fueling spots, that’s where this is popular, so not very safe.

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I’ve not seen those (may not be in my country). What do the concrete walls stop, explosions?

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And women should stay home and cook. Amirite?

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What do domestic roles have anything to do with this topic?

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