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1875 has never been an epoch anywhere, on any system. 1970 has. 1900 has. 0000 has. But 1875? No, it hasn’t. And no where in the cobol spec does 1875 appear.

This is just propaganda. He already does enough wrong, you guys lying about it just makes everything else you say suspect.

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Apparently ISO 8601:2004 doesn’t exist?

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That doesn’t mention 1875. Wikipedia was edited two days ago to add that in, it doesn’t appear in the original standard at all.

https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/en/#iso:std:iso:8601:ed-3:v1:en

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Wikipedia was edited two days ago to add that in

Not true, I picked a random revision of the Wikipedia article from October 2022, and it already had the part about 1875:

ISO 8601:2004 fixes a reference calendar date to the Gregorian calendar of 20 May 1875 as the date the Convention du Mètre (Metre Convention) was signed in Paris (the explicit reference date was removed in ISO 8601-1:2019).

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ISO_8601&oldid=1118165613

I’m pretty sure this has been in the Wikipedia article for even longer, considering that it dates back to 2001. I’m just too lazy to go through the entire history and check when it was added. But definitely not 2 days ago.


Edit: I also just googled “ISO 8601 2004”, found this PDF: https://dotat.at/tmp/ISO_8601-2004_E.pdf

Under 3.2.1 “The Gregorian calendar” it says:

The Gregorian calendar has a reference point that assigns 20 May 1875 to the calendar day that the “Convention du Mètre” was signed in Paris.


The Wikipedia article is correct, this wasn’t added 2 days ago, and I don’t know why you’re spreading misinformation.


Another edit: A brief look at your profile explains everything…


Yet another edit: I checked the Wiki article using WikiBlame:
The part about 1875 was added to the article in 2004. Not 2 days ago. This is a blatant lie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ISO_8601&oldid=4668168

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Nowhere in the cobol spec because cobol doesn’t even have a date type. It’s more of a legacy solution to a nearly 100 year old problem.

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Why is your profile picture a lemming? Nowhere in the rust spec does it say that a lemming should be the default picture. This is just propaganda.

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A lot of people online are calling it a reference date, whatever that means. An epoch data doesn’t even make sense since there isn’t really a date time type. I can see reason to doubt, but that’s not relevant.

However it could be important to the app. Perhaps at some point they decided there needed to be a cutoff because anything older was bad data. OR perhaps back in the days where storage was extremely expensive it was important to save a byte for every row.

Even if the specific claim about 1875 is wrong, that doesn’t change anything. The reality is bad data exists, there doesn’t seem to be any indication of it being paid out, and the claim of fraud is assinine

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“You guys are wrong about the epoch in COBOL and it’s really making me believe this ketamine fueled Nazi, shame on you” lol you’re ridiculous

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I thought truth mattered right?

…right?

I was intrigued by this article as 1865 isn’t any epoch I’ve heard about and I didn’t think COBOL really had a concept of an epoch (an epoch matters when you’re counting milliseconds from zero, COBOL stores date/time info differently). I’ve been searching this morning and can only find the Wikipedia page mentioning that date - which is weird for an ISO standard that is 99% about date formatting.

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Yeah I’ve only heard of the 1970 epoch too, I didn’t realise different languages had different epochs honestly! Interesting stuff. I’ve never worked with COBOL but my old boss was learning it a few years ago, it’s used a lot in banking right?

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Why not focus on the Nazi bit? Instead of lying about the 1875 bit? Are you lying about him being a Nazi?

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Am I lying? No, I don’t know anything about COBOL and haven’t said anything about it either.

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