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All the top officers have been in the military for over 20 years. They have seen Presidents come and go, and are loyal to their fellow service people. Even if they like Trump, firing for political reasons isn’t going to go down well.

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Genuinely, I do think the only way out of this is starting to look like a military coup by some sort of cadre of non-insane officers from across the services. Based on the performance and reactions of every single part of the government - specifically including the alphabet agencies - I don’t think we’re going to snap out of fascism any other way.

It looks like the legislative and judicial branches, and all of the agencies, have simply decided to do nothing and follow the rules while Trump just gives illegal directives that are then enacted by eel-on-musk’s imbecile intern wünderkinds, and everyone just stands around saying “I’m just following orders”. It’s fucking embarrassing.

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Trump is going after senior military officers AND Social Security AND doing an end run around Congress all at once. I just hope that he doesn’t have enough fingers for the dike.

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I hope the dykes have enough fingers for triggers.

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Even independent LGBT orgs have immediately given up on supporting trans people, just from the threat of the loss of federal funding. It’s sickening

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Problem is I don’t see any person in military doing this. They’re been brainwashed to love their country and their president since birth.

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and their president

During training we are very specifically taught that nothing is above the constitution, including the president. We are obligated to refuse illegal orders.

If it stuck with me, hopefully it stuck with a few of the people still in service.

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I have zero special knowledge, but generic history would suggest that at least some in the officer class, regardless of political leaning, will not be down with the current trajectory.

no idea what this may look like, but my worthless analysis portends something brewing ahead and it may be wise to consider possibilities and prep accordingly. fuck these “interesting times”.

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Well, yeah. When you’re planning a military coup against a fascist regime you don’t announce it ahead of time.

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I don’t want to destroy any illusions, but I don’t believe that much resistance can be expected from the military. The command principle applies here and the president is the Commander-in-Chief. I don’t see why any civil disobedience could be expected here in particular. Besides, it’s not as if those who actually make up the majority of soldiers would have much say in military affairs. If that were the case, there might be a chance, but the military is also run by old, greedy, white men - just like any other US institution.

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They’re not going to necessarily be the saviors of democracy but there’s actually a pretty clear demarcation between career politicians and career soldiers. There’s a reason “oblivious politician forces military to make strategic blunder” is a trope.

Usually their goals align with maintaining US hegemony but much less so when the Commander in Chief is selling the nation to foreign adversaries.

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But like DEI. Meritocracy, and other things Fox News told me

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