Lemdro.id

-6 points

17 days ago

making them feel bad for not doing enough.

If you feel bad for not doing enough that’s on you.

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kokolores@discuss.tchncs.de

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13 points

17 days ago

So you honestly think, that it is more beneficial to the cause to look down on people not doing enough instead of encouraging them to continue what they’re doing?

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-4 points

17 days ago

I’ll believe it when I see it. People are not doing enough, myself included. The reality around us is proof of this.

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kokolores@discuss.tchncs.de

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7 points

17 days ago

I know, it is frustrating, I also feel like everything’s doomed a lot of times, but I refuse to get drowned in this frustration.

If we can encourage others to engage more, then that’s a lot. Don’t underestimate what you’ve done so far. You can be an inspiration to others!

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-2 points

17 days ago

inspiration to others!

Even if they think organizing the community to raise local funds for deaf and blind kids, as well as grassroots organizations to delay big coal for a year, laying our in front of bulldozers and police cars, as “just protesting”? The same way these people are peacefully and safely holding signs outside a goddamn ski resort?! I’m not special, yet even I and others like me can risk our safety to get real results instead of peacefully be taken unseriously by the opposition. Just look at all the critical enlightened centrists in this thread.

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kokolores@discuss.tchncs.de

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5 points

17 days ago

You can’t win without them, you’ve got to work with them.

Only if you work with them then you have the chance to radicalise some of them. If you don’t work with them the movement stays as small as it is.

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0 points

17 days ago

I’ve had better luck turning MAGA towards leftism than any liberal. At least they have the balls to storm the US capitol, these so-called “protestors” with their JD Vance signs outside a ski resort are groupie cheerleaders for the status quo.

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2 points

17 days ago

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/dfd026e3-5de2-4a6b-9132-8cd2c25c3b66.webp

Kind of but not really relevant: As someone from an authoritarian state where you don’t really get to protest, I’d always wondered just how the whole protesting thing is supposed to work. Like you go out, hold some signs and chant some slogans and then politicians just listen to you??? Is that how democracy works??? In the last few years as I grew to understand how all that stuff works I learned the answer to that question, but I think many Westerners and Americans specifically really need to start thinking once about how what they’re doing is supposed to lead to results.

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3 points

17 days ago

This was 100% relevant to what i’m trying to say, you just said it better than I could. They think that it goes “Protest, sign petition, that’ll magically make politicans think oh we should listen to them, they sign our best interests into law.” They also think the only blood spilled in the name of democracy are from our troops who fought overseas - but forget the protestors who were gunned down by land-barons when workers were killing cops so that we can have weekends, or lives without slavery. That’s why there’s so much importance held to democracy, because of all the horrific sacrifices people have had to make, and will have to continue to make, to make it even possible. But even that’s been lost on most people, people now “vote with your wallet” instead of voting with a soul.

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