Summary

The Trump administration plans to revoke temporary legal status for 240,000 Ukrainians who fled Russia’s war, fast-tracking them for deportation.

The move is part of a broader effort to strip protections from 1.8 million migrants admitted under Biden’s humanitarian parole programs.

Trump’s policies also target 530,000 migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.

Legal challenges are mounting, as affected individuals face uncertain futures. Advocates warn that even U.S. allies, such as Afghans who assisted the military, are now at risk of detention and deportation.

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I wonder what the Ukrainian people want.

Especially the ones misplaced to the US by a war Russia started, and now have to return to a war zone because the USA is now politically aligned with Russia, and willing to break international treaties, law, and ethics if it gets them Putins favor.

You’re an absolute idiot it you can’t comprehend the international seppuku the USA has just committed by failing to help displaced war refugees, and instead now helps their aggressors.

Anyone with a shred of humanity would see this as the evil bullshit it is.

Instead, you’re pointing out that a country at war needs to conscript troops. No shit. Check out how Russia is doing it, if you want a real comparison to call inhumane.

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I wonder what the Ukrainian people want.

Well some want to leave, but the government isn’t allowing them to.

Why is it evil for the u.s. to send people back to a war zone but not for ukraine to keep people in a war zone?

And before you go for the whataboutism I know russia is doing it too and that’s fucked up. Fuck russia for starting this war but that doesn’t resolve the contradiction of supporting refugee rights and mandatory conscription.

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Why do Ukranian people want to leave their country?

That’s unquestionably what’s causing every problem you take issue with, so why aren’t you also taking issue with that cause?

Ukrainian conscription exists because Russia invaded them.

You blame Ukraine.

The US is sending refugees they previously welcomed back into a war zone because our government is now aligned with Russias.

You blame Ukraine.

Without Russia, none of your problems with Ukraine would exist. And more importantly, all the problems you have with Ukraine are already far far worse in Russia.

It’s pretty clear you’re either arguing in bad faith because you drank too much propaganda, or you’re working for the FSB.

Eitherway, your arguments are making Russia happy. Which means history is going to make you look like the idiot you’re acting like in supporting them.

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Did you read my reply?

fuck russia for starting this war

How am I blaming ukraine?

I’m pointing out a contradiction in your support for refugee rights and mandatory conscription. Instead of addressing that contradiction you seem to want to focus on russia and pretend I’m an fsb plant.

I’m not defending russia here, putin is horrible and without him none of this would happen. Now that we agree on that explain to me how your in favor of mandatory conscription and refugee rights.

The khmer rouge wouldnt have happened without u.s. meddling and bombing in Cambodia, that doesnt mean we cant criticize the horrible things they did in retaliation. Just because there’s a greater cause of something doesn’t mean we can’t debate the decisions made by those effected.

If zelensky comes out tomorrow and says this is a great move by trump because ukraine needs the manpower are you going to change your position?

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Especially the ones misplaced to the US by a war Russia started, and now have to return to a war zone because the USA is now politically aligned with Russia, and willing to break international treaties, law, and ethics if it gets them Putins favor.

You’re an absolute idiot it you can’t comprehend the international seppuku the USA has just committed by failing to help displaced war refugees, and instead now helps their aggressors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis

Ukraine government is drafting people by force and not allowing any male between 18-60 from leaving the country. Many people have died trying to flee the country.

“Anyone with a shred of humanity would see this as the evil bullshit it is.”

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My dude. So you understand what a war is and how it works?

Do you understand how Russia has done the same?

Do you understand how 500,000 Russians are now dead because of that?

Do you understand that those 500,000 dead Russians are invading a country they promised peace with in 1995?

Do you ultimately understand the point you are making is about how the citizens of the Ukraine are being forced by Russia to either fight for their country or die?

Because that is the policy you are defending despite it clearly being the reason there’s 500,000 dead Russians and not the other way around.

If you want to decry military enlistment as “evil” then you are by far picking the worst example. Russia is far worse in their policies, with a far higher body count, and they are the reason anyone is dying at all.

Which means you are either making your arguments out of bad faith or pure stupidity.

If your argument was made in WW2 it would be about how evil the US is for defending Pearl Harbor.

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My dude. So you understand what a war is and how it works?

Do you? Have you seen the footage of this war and see what’s going on?

Do you understand how Russia has done the same?

Do you understand that drafting people by force like russia is doing is bad?

Do you understand how 500,000 Russians are now dead because of that?

Do you understand that bragging about 500.000 dead people is not a good thing?

Do you understand that those 500,000 dead Russians are invading a country they promised peace with in 1995?

Do you understand that a good amount of these 500.000 got drafted by force and ordered by the government to invade another country?

Do you ultimately understand the point you are making is about how the citizens of the Ukraine are being forced by Russia to either fight for their country or die?

That’s not the point i’m making. Ukraine government isn’t allowing any males between 18-60 from leaving the country, they are forcing them to fight or to stay there and possibly die.

Which means you are either making your arguments out of bad faith or pure stupidity.

Do you understand that by defending forced conscription and authoritarian laws you are playing russian government game too?

If your argument was made in WW2 it would be about how evil the US is for defending Pearl Harbor.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-preparedness-the-road-to-universal-slaughter

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