French nuclear attack submarine surfaces at Halifax, Nova Scotia, after Trump threatens to annex Canada (March 10)(lemmy.ca)

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Empricorn@feddit.nl

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8 days ago

Hey. Guess what? At the moment, we’re the bad guys…

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XenGi@feddit.org

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8 days ago

At the moment? When was there ever a time the US weren’t the bad guys?

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CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org

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6 days ago

Pretty much all Western countries looked up to the US between 1945 and 2016 (or so).

Presumably, you’re the kind of person who thinks we’ve all been the bad guys the whole time, though. And TBF shit things were done, it’s just that everyone else has been even more shit.

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Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk

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6 days ago

Pretty much all Western countries looked up to the US between 1945 and 2016 (or so).

Are you sure about that? Pretty much all Western countries see America as a convenient bully.

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CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org

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6 days ago

As a Westerner not from America (like most of the users in this community), yes, I am sure about that. I didn’t say it was a relationship without conflict, but they helped defeat the Nazis, lead the charge in the Cold War and then were the fulcrum of the new trade-focused world order in the so-called “end of history” period that followed. We all watched American movies the whole time and it’s not because anyone was forcing us.

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XenGi@feddit.org

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6 days ago

They only joined WW2 when the Nazis where pretty much defeated by the rest of the allies and success was guaranteed. Only to invent themselves as the sole winner of the war. During the Cold war they fought hot proxy wars all over the place without any interest in casualties as long as they didn’t look weak for the soviets. Even after the Cold war western countries were only lucky that the US didn’t invade them for oil or other interests. They brought “freedom” to so many countries by now it became a fucking meme. Sure I’m seeing things a bit narrow and I might be biased but the US is and was a shithole that fucked up everyone around them as long as I can think of. The only reason they could do it is because they would crush you if you tried stopping them or it was useful to you because you weren’t the current victim. As you put it so nicely, the convenient bully.

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CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org

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5 days ago

Few felt intimidated by them or even that they were morally bad in the West, though, which is what “convenient bully” conveys. Their military (mis)adventures targeted small, distant countries and usually came with a nice story that made it seem acceptable. They didn’t go comletely alone into any of them, but then again lots of nations sat out Vietnam and Iraq II without consequence.

They only joined WW2 when the Nazis where pretty much defeated by the rest of the allies and success was guaranteed. Only to invent themselves as the sole winner of the war.

Well, actually they started by flooding the USSR with free lend-lease stuff. The Soviet frontline that actually did the heavy lifting was quite typically supplied with Ford trucks.

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YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub

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8 days ago

Briefly the us was the good guys when we killed a bunch of slavers and then when we killed a bunch of fascists. Those were exceptions to the rule though.

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starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml

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8 days ago

Removed by mod

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