Summary

Jasmine Mooney, a 35-year-old Canadian woman, has been detained in U.S. immigration facilities since March 3 after attempting to enter with an incomplete Trade NAFTA work visa application.

She was initially held at San Ysidro border crossing before being transferred in chains to detention centers in San Diego and Arizona.

Her mother, Alexis Eagles, reports inhumane conditions including overcrowded concrete cells with constant lighting and inadequate facilities.

Business partner BJ McCaslin called the situation a “nightmare” while Global Affairs Canada confirmed they’re aware but unable to intervene in U.S. immigration matters.

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Please stop grandstanding lol. There are grassroot leftist movements that have been organizing, setting up mutual aid networks, etc. for years. Guess who has been suppressing those movements? The State and Corporate media. And, man, they got you convinced that 340 million people in one of the most diverse countries in the world somehow all think the same. Obviously we don’t. If we did, it’d be a hell of a lot easier to organize the masses, wouldn’t it?

Launching an attack on the most powerful military in the world is going to require more than pea shooters, my guy. I know this is the first time Canadians have felt a legitimate threat on their democracy in like 200 years, unless your First Nations. Let’s be real— I’m in Texas and you’re in Canada. Odds are you are much closer to D.C. than majority of Americans actually are. You severely underestimate how large and spread out this empire actually is— hence why it is crumbling.

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first time Canadians have felt a legitimate threat on their democracy in like 200 years, **unless your First Nations. **

Big ups for including that.

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Yeah, because French Canadians being genocided and force assimilated didn’t count, apparently.

For those who didn’t know, yes genocide was attempted and yes force assimilation was attempted. Many died. We survived in the end, but a lot of blood was shed. I don’t really expect Americans to know this. Some barely know Canada has a French speaking population.

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The eye rolling number of non-Americans who think 2A is about overthrowing the government instead of just making it a little less easy and more costly for them to show up at your door and stomp you into the ground.

The US government is not going to be overthrown by a ragtag civilian militia. It’s not happening. Even if we actually had anything resembling an organized and united civilian militia that could strategize enough to execute a large-scale operation, we would still lose hilariously because we don’t have drones, missiles, helicopters, or tanks.

Stop demanding that we just start blasting. That’s not going to help. You live in a fantasy world. Your countries have actual military resources. YOU start blasting if you think it will help.

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we would still lose hilariously because we don’t have drones, missiles, helicopters, or tanks.

Those alone don’t win wars, the USA’s military history is more than enough evidence of that, not to mention guerilla movements in other countries past and present. I’m not trivializing their power either, but when we’re talking about resistance rather than the idealistic 2A government overthrow fantasy, it’s important not to simply assume that the state’s technological advantage makes any armed resistance futile.

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25% tariff on all your comments.

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More tarriffs will surely help Americas recession.

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It’s gonna be the best recession. Yuge! So many people are talking about it. They said it couldn’t be done. Now they’re saying trump is the only one who could have pulled this off. We’re gonna recess so far you wouldn’t believe it.

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The more recession, the more bankrupt millionaires, the more billionaires will be able to gobble up, the higher the chances (now former) millionaires realise that they have more in common with burger flippers than with billionaires.

No way around accelerationist logic when the system is launching itself against a wall and the bureaucrats responsible for system inertia to work against that are running around like headless chicken.

Tariffs will increase until sanity improves. We (that is, the EU) certainly aren’t going to back down from a trade war.

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We’re now talking big about 200% tariffs! Soon we’ll keep upping them to 400 and 1000% to make us feel bigly.

Truly the dumbest timeline.

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You have illustrated just how unhinged you are in the rest of your comments. You don’t seem to understand that we are all trying to live our relatively normal lives while also figuring out what to do about this.

Here’s a hypothetical: I have two children under 6, my wife works full-time, I work 50 hours a week to keep a roof over my family’s heads and food in their mouths, I also make 2/3 of our household income, we have no real support system to speak of. We’re in Texas, so the allies I have are extremely limited, and do not include any of my family other than my brother, who doesn’t live here. We’re trying to figure out how to get out of here but it’s difficult and frankly I don’t know if we can afford it.

So you’re suggesting I do what? Go buy a gun for me and the three able bodied liberals I know (also fathers of young children) , kiss my family goodbye, drive for 2 days, get fired, and go do ourselves a good ol domestic terrorism? So you can feel better about the hell that WE not you are living through? And all because I committed the crime of being born in the wrong place and unable to escape? Get fucked.

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What am i, one unaffiliated person, going to do against a tyrannical government? Go commit suicide by cop? You are literally asking me to martyr myself and my family for your feelings.

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Unless you’ve managed to destroy economic liberalism in your own country, it’s happening to you too. That train is going to hit you awfully soon.

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I know, thanks to American capitalism and their almighty sacred petrodollar preventing any socialist revolution elsewhere. Look up CIA, School of the Americas, and USAID to know more.

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Choo choo !

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While this may be true for a lot of Americans, plenty are essentially trapped. Our education system basically ensures that we don’t have the language skills or cultural understanding to get a decent job in most any other country. And the work style that has been drilled into us since birth isn’t welcome in most other countries either.

Many of us have kids born before this path was clearly the way things are going. I wouldn’t choose to have kids these days in the US unless I had like family outside the country so I knew I had an escape path.

Those that can leave, have been doing so. The rest are or feel trapped. They simply have too much to lose, and little chance of a decent life if they leave.

I for example can’t fight back against my government in the most effective ways because I have kids. And they deserve a chance to make their own decisions about polotics. But if I say damage something important, they won’t likely get much of a choice since I won’t be able to support them anymore. And because of our healthcare system, no job means extremely substandard healthcare. So like my autistic son would probably never be able to manage his own life. That is the delema many of us face.

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Considering where things are going, isn’t protecting your kids a reason to not show up to work and show up to protest? What will you say to them if they ask, “Did you do anything to fight back and protect us?” The saddest part is reading/hearing stuff like this, because one day “I have kids to protect” becomes your reasoning to march towards certain death in a battlefield, why wait till it gets to that point? Reminds me of what Aaron Bushnell said, "Many of us like to ask ourselves, what would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide? The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now.”

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So let’s play this out you go to a protest instead of you job. Then you get fired from your job, so now you have no health insurance for yourself or your children. The job market is shit right now, since we just had an influx of former government employees, so good luck on finding a new job. Going to work is protecting your children. It’s how the hyper capitalistic society works. I hate it and want out so bad, but it just keeps getting worse. Most Americans retirement is in 401k which is a horrible idea basing your retirement income on the stock market. We are just fucked.

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This American gets what you’re saying. I’m trying to figure out what I can do without ending up homeless.

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So long as you get yours, right?

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Staying housed is “getting yours”? Lmao, you’re delusional. And this is coming from a homeless person. I do not begrudge people who do what they can while maintaining shelter in the dead of winter. Frozen corpses can’t protest either, bud.

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Wtf, so we are supposed to be homeless with kids in tow? Since when is I get mine the simple fact of having a roof over my head?

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Dude, straight up fuck you. The moment you voluntarily unhouse yourself for others you can open your mouth again and rejoin the adults in the conversation.

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Dude, I’ve been working on this at a local level, and being homeless in the US might as well be a fucking death sentence. It paints a target on you at almost every level of society and it’s becoming increasingly impossible to escape. This is almost like shitting on someone for not wanting to get shot or get their family tortured.

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Don’t be a twat.

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As another Canadian: I hate the US government, oligarchs, the loss of separation between church and state, and fascists. The US government has had terrible and negligent policies for much longer than the last 2 months. It’s just now there’s not even attempts to mask it and not nearly enough official resistance to it. America is being gutted beyond recognition as the same entity it was. I can empathize with what is, frankly, a rant from in4apenny even as I downvoted their post.

However I have many American friends I do NOT hate, and who do not hate me or covet my country. I do NOT agree with the “fuck everyone, you’re all a blight” position. I could write many arguments why, but the most important one is for many decades our countries have been stronger for being allies. If I want Canada to be the greatest nation it can be I have to recognize the contribution of a friendly USA that existed basically uninterrupted until two months ago. I 100% support the “elbows up, fight back hard” movement that is sweeping my nation, but with an eye for historical context of shared success. I hope for a return to that friendship when/if you folks manage to restore sanity. But that restoration is either going to be very messy or not happen at all, so we’ll see if the elbows ever get to come down again.

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If I want Canada to be the greatest nation it can be I have to recognize the contribution of a friendly USA that existed basically uninterrupted until two months ago.

Like selling our oil 20% below the price for comparable oil on international markets, the continued Americanization of our media and culture, numerous instances of fighting over our arctic sovereignty, the erosion of generic drugs via patent extensions for the benefit of American pharma, pushing for the dismantling of one of our greatest technological accomplishments (Avro Arrow) to favor US products, and numerous cases of American companies using NAFTA to bully the government to allow the destruction of our environment because they aren’t that bad see Lone Pine Resources v. Canada or Ethyl Corporation v. Canada.

This has always been a shit relationship, it’s just more obvious now.

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Most of Canada’s oil is heavy oil that doesn’t compete well with the lighter oil on international markets due to difficulty in transportation and refining. It is shipped to the US by train, and refined in the US which has costs associated with it. I couldn’t find a source saying that Canada would be 20% better off shipping to our other export targets like the EU. I’m willing to be taught a lesson by such sources.

I’m guessing you’re arguing that trade with the US makes drugs expensive. Canada protects drug prices as part of our single-payer system. We negotiate prices nationally and thus pay close to what other OECD nations pay. Re: patents - I could very well be missing something, but wouldn’t such patents exist regardless of trade agreements? If we could buy generic analogs of patented drugs then surely we can regardless of patents. If we can’t get generic analogs then how does cancelling trade agreements make patented drugs cheaper? If you are just saying that US big pharma sucks then I totally agree, but I don’t see how ending our agreements fixes that.

Americanization of media and culture isn’t just a Canadian problem that stems from our close relationship to the US. Things like radicalization and swings towards autocracy are happening in democracies (and other systems) all around the world regardless of level of direct US influence. I don’t think it’s fair at all to say that if we didn’t associate with the US that our society would be free from US-style problems.

I can see that NAFTA has caused instances of ignoring environmental damage. I will say that as far as I can tell by looking it up, the Lone Pine Resources v. Canada case was decided against the corporation, in which case the destruction you mention was not allowed. “On November 21, 2022, the NAFTA tribunal found that revocation of mining rights around the St. Lawrence river did not amount to an expropriation, considering that Claimant retained other mining rights. Tribunal majority also dismisses MST claim.” Unless I’m reading that wrong (definitely a possibility) in that case NAFTA officials actually stopped environmental damage. Plus let’s face it, provinces like Alberta and Ontario do not need NAFTA pressure at all to make large-scale environmentally harmful choices. I’m not convinced Canada would have refused to exploit resources if free trade wasn’t a thing.

As far as the relationship being shit, there’s a lot of experts who say it’s beneficial. If nothing else it has created TONS of jobs for Canadians and been a bedrock of our economy across many sectors.

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USA doesn’t want friendly relations with you though.

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Nah, you’re clearly not paying attention or wilfully ignoring whatever doesn’t fit your position. It’s not even all MAGA folks that want to break up our national relationship and basically no one outside MAGA wants to at all. Even staunch conservatives are calling this the dumbest trade war ever. I think there’s a lot of indication that most American citizens and especially many businesses want cooperation with Canada.

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Well, if push came to shove, I’d stand with you anyway.

The common folk of the world need to find solidarity. Because this is gonna spread…

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Amen comrad. The moment protests start happening outside millionaires and billionaires mansions and gated communities is when I wheel my disabled Graves diseased ass back out to protests again. The numbers are on our side.

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As Jim Morrison said, “They got the guns, but we got the numbers.”

It is beyond shameful what my government is doing, though; I don’t fault you for the stance against all Americans. The worst part for me? I’ve seen this coming since I was in high school (over two decades ago). My entire adult life it’s been in the back of my mind. And here we are.

There’s no easy path forward. That’s for sure.

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Troll

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Dude has been ranting for HOURS lmao

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You’ve been reading for hours too. Please enlighten us and keep making toilet jokes to distract from going out to protests. I swear this is r/worldnews all over again.

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Newton’s Flaming Laser Sword

(philosophy) A philosophical razor which states that what cannot be settled by experiment is not worth debating.

Occams Razer can suck it compared to Newtons Flaming Laser Sword.

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No that’s occam’s razor you are thinking of. Occams razEr states that sometimes the simplest solution is to burn the village and sow the fields with salt.

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amen

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Re: Retorts to this in this thread-

But there is a peculiar behavior among most Caucasians. As soon as I become critical of Europe and its impact on other cultures, they become defensive. They begin to defend themselves. But I am not attacking them personally; I’m attacking Europe. In personalizing my observations on Europe they are personalizing European culture, identifying themselves with it. By defending themselves in this context, they are ultimately defending the death culture. This is a confusion which must be overcome, and it must be overcome in a hurry. None of us has energy to waste in such false struggles.

Caucasians have a more positive vision to offer humanity than European culture. I believe this. But in order to attain this vision it is necessary for Caucasians to step outside European culture — alongside the rest of humanity — to see Europe for what it is and what it does.

note: “Europe” here refers to imported European culture in America

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note: “Europe” here refers to imported European culture in America

Yeah I was already wondering it’s not like actual Europeans get defensive about our influence. There’s nothing European about WASP(ish) culture, they’re about as European as chuds with Greek statute avatars are Greek: It’s a fetish, a signifier to dangle around in front of one set of people to consider themselves superior, and then hide when they’re facing the Old Continent proper, then it’s “Europoor”, “we pay for your healthcare”, whatnot. It’s a culture which refuses to recognise itself, and thus is forced to define itself in opposition to others, for doing otherwise would imply acknowledging that the cultural highlight of the year, what everyone is talking about for days and weeks on end, what unifies them as a people, are the ads during superbowl. When pressed, then, you point their mind, deliberately or not, to address the question “are you actually European”, and of course they’ll get defensive you’re attacking the charade surrounding the core of their identity. If I were pressed to describe that kind of culture in a single sentence I would choose a single word: Alienation.

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I highly reccomend this series if you want to know how this came to be in recent centuries:

https://hellonearth.chapotraphouse.com/views/podcast/

I do not listen to these folks regularly, but they did a great job of this. It is a modernised retelling of a famous book from the early 1900s.

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If you feel that strongly, how come you only comment in posts about the US?

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What does that have to do with Americans not taking enough action? I’m not an American.

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I know you’re not American. But hot damn you sure are obsessed over us.

Why don’t you spend some time in posts about your own country for a few minutes?

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Nah, I’m good thanks.

How about you come down and burn the WH again?

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That was the brits. People always say it was Canada, but it wasn’t. The guys in charge of that raid were in Canada for less then a year, and died later on in the same year they burned the WH - the leaders had spent most of their time on campaigns in EU / northern africa. The troops were all trained in the uk. Canada wasn’t even a ‘country’ for decades after that event – there’s no way we had our own trained army/generals involved. Hell, the (great?) granddaughter of one of the two generals who did it, is Olivia Wilde – from her scottish roots (Cockburn). So not even the guys kids/descendants were Canadian – they became US people in Hollywood.

Lotta Canadians like to take credit for it though, but realistically it wasn’t us.

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I’d say that you Canadians do deserve some credit. Yes, it was the Brit’s regulars that did the burning of government buildings (no longer distracted by that Napoleon fellow, they were able to use their veteran forces, rather than people from the W bench). However, Canadian militia made it possible by guarding the North.

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Excuseme but are you trying to give ME a lesson in history?

Because if so, please do, I love history stuff.

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I’d rather the Americans did it rather than making others do their work for them as usual.

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Ranting on Lemmy definitely helps, I’m so proud of you.

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So do your witty remarks on Lemmy, that’ll really show the billionaires! Now go back to work, obedient American.

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Replying to a dude that is sitting on the toilet really helps as well, what a champ!

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Who are you, again?

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A human being. Why would I be anything less?

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