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I love how people mention heart inflammation from the vaccines, but they never talk about heart inflammation from COVID itself - it’s more common with COVID itself, and it’s more severe with COVID itself.

But hey, gotta hate on the vaccines, am I right?

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These are the same people who argue against wearing seatbelts and mandatory airbags because they could potentially be worse than an accident without them, which is ignoring the 99.999% of the time they help.

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I believe people should have a right to weigh these risks for themselves.

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And the vaccine was a choice. Noone was forced to take it.

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And the vaccine was a choice. Noone was forced to take it.

Many lost their jobs and in places like Canada could not leave the country for refusing to take the vaccine? It was not a choice, it was forced and those who wished to be left alone, lost basic freedoms.

Imagine you wanted to leave Canada to go to a better place, but you were denied since you needed to show a digital ID. Think about it.

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They do, that’s why you’re likely not vaccinated right now, and why people who are against it are not vaccinated.

Freedom of choice does not mean freedom from consequences of choices. If you make a bad choice, you aren’t entitled to be free from the consequences of that choice.

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If you run around with Covid making others sick, you do not just weigh a risk for yourself, you are also inflicting it onto others. If too many do that, society breaks because hospitals get overwhelmed, firefighters and law enforcement are sick, the grocery store has to close and the government stops working. Children are unattended and whatever else.

If you do not wear a set belt your broken body takes up a hospital bed too, or are you going to accept the weight of your decision and abstain from health care because you inflicted that harm on yourself? Be welcome to not wear a seatbelt then, but make sure to have a big sticker on your car that says: “My head injury was my choice, so do not help.”

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I think

  1. Most people are actually mostly reasonable most of the time because they don’t want to die or be seriously injured
  2. Generally then, your scenario is unrealistic
  3. If it were true, that most people were just dying to get brain damage in car accidents we could probably deal with it in a non-authoritarian way

Consider the billions per month alcohol and tobacco cost public health systems. We still let people do these things. Frankly I’d very much be in favor of taxing smokers more if they wanted to use the public health system.

The reality is, you just like a more controlling society as I like a more free one.

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