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118 points

The cars suck, but he’s right that the company hasn’t done anything to deserve this. He’s the one who chose to make himself the face of Tesla, though, so however people feel about him, they’ll feel about any business he owns.

Terrorism, though? Hardly. It’s protest. He’s the one doing terrorism by dismantling the government.

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41 points

The cars are poorly designed to the point of being dangerous. They deserve it a little.

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Terrorism, though? Hardly.

Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature

Pretty much the definition of terrorism. Doesn’t necessarily make it wrong.

That’s what was so terrifying about the Patriot Act for so long.

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59 points

Violent, criminal acts

Property damage is not violence and nonviolent protests are not terrorism. They will claim it is. They are lying.

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Gonna disagree with the anarchist viewpoint because physical damage to inanimate objects can still cause PTSD, battered spouse syndrome with enough incidents over time, etc. It’s the threat of danger that matters.

Just because it doesn’t fit your ideological view doesn’t mean people are lying by looking at it differently

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Property damage is not violence

Every definition that I can find says it is but maybe you’d like to provide one that says otherwise.

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Yes, but that definition also defines… basically all the most heinous things that Trump and those around him have done in the last… 5 years, lets say? … as terrorism.

Remember CPAC, 2022?

… kinda speaks for itself.

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-11 points

You can make that argument but you’re not arguing that burning down a Tesla dealership isn’t terrorism, you’re just making a whataboutism.

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16 points

Rather it is vandalism, because Terrorism, its acts cause terror in the population.

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14 points

nobody is terrified, except for billionaires, like crybaby musk.

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Rather it is vandalism

I don’t understand what you wrote but the two are not mutually exclusive.

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Spraypaint a traffic camera, violence.

So what I’m hearing is, if you burn Tesla because their CEO is a scum-sucking useless billionaire who is dismantling the social services that you and your family rely on (and paid for!), in order to cut taxes for the 1%, you’re a terrorist.

If you set shit on fire because you like to watch stuff burn, you’re just a plain ol’ arsonist.

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If that’s what you’re hearing, you should have your ears checked. It doesn’t matter who the offending person is or what they do. It only matters what the perpetrator does.

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Not sure why some people are disagreeing - it for sure fits the definition. I’m not exactly sad about it - Musk is helping to rip apart the country and I have a hard time blaming people who feel that helping to rip apart one of his companies is about all they can do - but committing arson to further an ideology is terrorism.

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Not sure why some people are disagreeing

They don’t like the connotation. Which is fair. Nuance is hard and if you say “yes, we’re terrorists” there’s no way that’s not going to be wielded against “your people” in the court of public opinion.

But facts are facts.

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It’s property damage that was done specifically to avoid hurting people. By that interpretation, Banksy could also be classified as a terrorist.

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Man that’s some podium level mental gymnastics.

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3 points

criminal acts

With this definition, a government can do anything it wants without it being terrorism because it gets to decide what’s criminal. So while it may be terrorism by definition, that definition is pretty useless without a lot of context.

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This is resisting, not furthering, ideological goals.

Could you state the ideological goal of these attacks?

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Could you state the ideological goal of these attacks?

fuckelon

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This is resisting, not furthering, ideological goals.

It’s the same thing.

Could you state the ideological goal of these attacks?

Seriously? You need that explained to you? How much time do you have? Eccentric billionaire seeks to destroy democracy, manipulate the public, oppress and marginalize it’s people, consolidate wealth in the elite class, dismantle federal institutions that check him, defy the law, for starters. You haven’t heard about any of this? The “ideological goal” is to end it.

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15 points

This is terrorism. Storming the capitol is clearly not.

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