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It’s easier to use than Windows

LOL, good one!

I especially loved the user friendliness of my distro randomly disconnecting my BT mouse and refusing to reconnect. Had to edit grub to get it back to working order.

Or how I changed the lock screen image through settings. Now I can see it - in Settings. Only. Because if I lock my device, I still see the old one.

Or how on Kubuntu, my previous distro, the applications’ menu (the one with “File”, “View”, “Help”, etc.) just disappeared from all apps. Spent two days trying to sort it out and ended up switching to Tuxedo OS.

Such an easy to use OS, especially for those who’ve never done one bit of troubleshooting themselves!

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6 points

Spoken like someone who hasn’t had to troubleshoot Windows

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Could that be because he’s had fewer issues with Windows and hasn’t had a need to troubleshoot it?

Windows 11 is a shitty version of Windows, but it’s not Windows ME or Vista. It sucks because of the arbitrary CPU and TPM requirements, plus having AI forced into a user’s desktop. Not to mention Microsoft is dragging its feet fixing performance issues in Explorer.

It’s still very stable on good hardware with stable drivers. Point out the actual shit parts of Windows, not lazy callbacks to the days of Windows 98.

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Could that be because he’s had fewer issues with Windows and hasn’t had a need to troubleshoot it?

It’s actually the opposite. Worked in IT for 20 years, had to troubleshoot every conceivable issue with Windows.

Here’s the difference: 90% of the time, once you’ve installed the OS, it’s smooth sailing*. If it’s not, reboot, and it will be fine. For the fringe cases, just search online to find help.

This last bit is what kills Linux as “user-friendly OS” - you have one distro, but solutions you find are for five different distros and each one looks and feels slightly differently, so things are in different places.

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* I should’ve added: TODAY. It used to be VERY different, but these days? It’s mostly “fire and forget”.

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2080 ti and 128gb of ram - it is definitely not stable and unlike Linux isn’t ready out of the box

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Here’s the problem with sweeping statements on the Internet like the one you just did - you never know who you’re talking to.

You have no clue how hilarious your comment reads from the perspective of someone who’s worked in IT for the past 20 years. :D

Here’s the difference between Linux and Windows TODAY (that’s a CRITICAL point) - the average user gets the OS installed, fires it up and just uses it. If there’s a problem, a reboot will fix it 99% of the time. For that 1% there’s a bajillion different forums where they’ll find help.

Now, Linux? You install it, fire it up, and it runs without issues. Or it doesn’t! You use an app, and it works - or it doesn’t! You start searching for solutions online and find that the issue you’ve had has been resolved but on a different distro, things look different on yours and you have no clue how to proceed.

Windows is not a perfect OS, but it’s as good as it gets (next to MacOS) in terms of “I’m John, this is my first computer, I just learned how to log in and now I want to have some fun”. Linux is FAR from that, still.

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Empirically, you are getting Windows and Linux mixed up

Also more end user devices are Linux than Windows

Linux is ideal for people who don’t want to spend all day troubleshooting and not getting anywhere. It’s for people who want things to just work without extra effort

Can’t compare to Mac personally

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Steps to troubleshoot Windows:

  • Reboot, pray
  • Google the error, if any
  • Randomly change registry settings, delete files, install software on the advice of random Internet people/LLMs until the software works or the randomware kicks in.
  • Thank god you’ve never had to touch a Linux terminal, clearly a fate worse than death.
  • Reboot again, just in case
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Looks fairly similar to what you would do on Linux. Change registry to config file (unless you’re using Gnome, then it’s both). You’re right though, on Windows, people don’t usually have paragraph long commands to paste into the terminal to fix some issue. Instead, on Windows you have Microsoft support posts where a “Microsoft Community Support” non-employee pastes non-helpful boilerplate tech support copypasta which are somewhat adjacent to the user’s issue.

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Sfc /scannow

Dism something

Are the most common troubleshooting steps and that’s in command prompt

If that doesn’t work then registry

If that doesn’t work reinstall the whole OS

If that doesn’t work just accept that x not working is part of the experience

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Randomly change registry settings, delete files, install software on the advice of random Internet people/LLMs until the software works or the randomware kicks in.

See? Here’s your problem. You’re doing random stuff without understanding what it does or even without a guide. Try that on Linux and tell me how well your OS works. :)

In general, seems like you’ve been sheltered from Windows for the past, I don’t know, 15 years? In terms of reliability and stability, 10 and 11 are on par with MacOS.

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Windows never has issues, does it?

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Not like that, it doesn’t.

I’ve never heard of someone using bcdedit to change a boot flag, so a Bluetooth adapter will behave.

The lock screen problem I’ve seen myself a while back. At least in my case, I did not have permissions to the session manager config file, and the gui tool did not account for that. But I think I had to install the tool from the repo. It wasn’t part of the base install.

The menu problem could be a Kubuntu or early plasma issue. Either way, not something I’ve ever seen in Windows.

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Hey, thanks for being the voice of reason in this thread!

Windows is, by all means, not a perfect OS. But people claiming that it’s “easier to use” for the average user are just detached from reality.

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