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I’ve used Linux for 25 years now and I remember every time when back then people needed help with windows it was always "go to the registry editor and add the key djrgegfbwkgisgktkwbthagnsfidjgnwhtjrtv in position god-knows-where to fix some stupid windows shit. that, apparently, made windows user ready

On Linux I’d have to edit an English language file and add an English word and that meant it wasn’t user ready

Yeah, Linux was ready long ago

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Right, that’s the reason alright, lol. Remember dconf on Gn*me? It’s like registry on windows, but worse.

No, Linux is still not ready for desktop, and it has nothing to do with this fallacy of yours.

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I used Linux desktop for 25 years now and I never used Gnome, what is your point?

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Since when is Linux = Gnome?

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How was the gnome registry some how worse? Microsoft didn’t even have a document that could describe how theirs worked, much less an organizational structure. At least Gnomes was basically simple words and categories. And they built a settings manager for it too.

Not that I use gnome much, but still this is silly.

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I know this is linuxmemes, but if you want a serious answer, I can provide, lol. It’s worse because it is an amateurish attempt at recreating windows like registry (like most things Gn*me lol).

boring technical details

Let’s start from the top:

Microsoft didn’t even have a document that could describe how theirs worked

Oh, really, I remember reading enormous amounts of info on MSDN describing how the internal registry hives work in 1998 (yes, I am that old lol) Also, there were/are excellent books on the topic, i.e. “Windows Internals” by Mark Russinovich. Can you tell me where I can find more info on how dconf works, what about dconf internal structure and organization? I don’t want to read the source code.

At least Gnomes was basically simple words and categories

Right, can you tell me what this dconf dump is about:

[org/gnome/nm-applet/eap/fea8b3cc-21a2-4a3d-a3bb-72b7459247b7]
check-time=uint32 1742505110

And they built a settings manager for it too

You mean like simplified UI for poor man’s regedit?

Windows registry is horribly over-engineered very very high performance binary database (dconf is a Gvariant binary db also, lol) deeply integrated within the NT kernel and overall system, it supports access virtualization, transparent path override, robust ACLs, and more. IMO, M$’ biggest mistake was allowing 3rd party access to the hive in the early days. Then backwards compatibility kicked in and the rest is history.

Don’t get me wrong it sucks, massively, but this attempt of Gn*me/freedesktop INI db is a joke, like the OP’s argument

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I couldnt use linux on my laptop 15 years ago because suspend never seemed to work. Just tried it again last week on my generic desktop, suspend still not working. So ya linux has come a long way. Still cant use it.

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Just installed KDE neon on two HP laptops and I might be mistaken but I do think they’re both asleep right now. I’ll check back on that later but usually it’s a bad hardware issue that can be rectified with some kernel parameters.

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An HP by any chance? These don’t handle suspend well and you need to add a parameter or three at boot via grub (or systemd too). Otherwise the system gets tied up filling the log endlessly with rapidly cycling pcie errors and you end up crashing or frozen pretty quickly. If this might be your problem, see

https://askubuntu.com/questions/863150/pcie-bus-error-severity-corrected-type-physical-layer-id-00e5receiver-id

And

https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/yh3nkw/freezing_issue_finally_solved_here_is_how/

Where there’s a problem there’s usually a solution, you just might need to root around the web for answers.

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Where there’s a problem there’s usually a solution, you just might need to root around the web for answers.

Thats a huge problem for linux, average users are never going to do that. But as a long time linux user myself I have been trying to find solution to the suspend problem for a long time and I still cant find one. So Id say its a big problem.

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Suspend doesn’t really work for my Thinkpad either. Computers were never really meant to ‘suspend’, I’ve learned it’s just as fast to power down/up on Linux.

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Suspend doesn’t really work for my Thinkpad either. Computers were never really meant to ‘suspend’

Well, whether computers were ‘meant’ to suspend is beside the point, windows made it work somehow but so far linux has not, and Id call it a required for most users. Without that feature working reliably, I can’t personally make the switch even though I want to.

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8 points

As another Linux user with over 2 decades of Linux as my primary, it sounds like that might be a your laptop problem.

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it sounds like that might be a your laptop problem

All the laptops Ive ever tried and all the desktops including my current one which is a very generic Ryzen 7? None of them have ever suspended reliably, thats for sure a linux problem. Without that feature, I cannot switch to it as my daily. Its relegated to server only for me sadly.

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You can’t install macOS on any PC you like either, is it not ready as well?

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You can’t install macOS on any PC you like either

I dont understand your question…

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Wifi on resume is the bane of my existence. If I close my lid I just have my laptop restart. Mint.

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Lol, if I had a buck for every time a user came to me because Windows got stuck in Suspend and needed a hard reset, I’d retire.

If Suspend is your ‘‘must have feature’’, then I’ve got bad news for you.

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30 years Ive never seen windows fail to suspend… coming back from suspend ya I have seen a few errors in 30 years, not many.

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Implying suspend works on Windows either. I’ve got like a 50/50 chance my monitor connected with DisplayPort actually gets signal after waking on Windows. This shit has been a problem for a long time.

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Ive been using windows 30 years and linux for 20, Ive never seen windows fail at suspending on any system in that time. Linux on the other hand Ive never seen it reliably suspend on any system. Dont get me wrong I want to use linux at home very badly, but none of the fixes I have looked into have solved the problem. Its a 100% required feature for me.

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