Serious answers only. For over a year I was told that trump “doesn’t have anything to do with that”.

I honestly need to know from an actual Republican who believed trumps words and is now witnessing p2025 almost hit 50% completion with the department of education getting dismantled.

And with that; how do these people feel that public schools, daycare centers and tech schools all going to cost 3-6x as much as it does now for tuition?

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Truth.

Some will call Lemmy an echo chamber. Personally, I don’t give a damn. Sharing platforms with far-right lunatics is a deeply unpleasant experience.

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I don’t need dumbass opinions in any chamber I’m occupying, Republicans can stay gone for all I care

I like to fuck with em when I can. Keep the space hostile to them, it worked for punk bars it works for us.

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Keep the space hostile to them, it worked for punk bars it works for us.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03/gay-bar-defends-decision-to-eject-supporters-despite-their-cries-of-discrimination/ 🔥🔥

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That was a confusing URL

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I like to fuck with em when I can. Keep the space hostile to them, it worked for punk bars it works for us.

Heh come make a meme or 2 on !conservative@lemmy.world though I will admit it’s a tad less fun without actual conservatives to downvote, but it’s still fun lolol

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I don’t mean to criticize what you’ve done with the place, but I do think it might’ve been interesting to have something that purported to be a sincere community for conservatives but that wasn’t moderated as a ‘safe space’ for them.

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Shout out to Turbohaüs in Montreal

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It would be one thing if we were debating different ways to solve health care, education, incarceration, mental health, homelessness, wealth inequality, or something else.

While I personally think the right is wrong in their solutions I’d be happy to debate them.

But the right isn’t talking about these issues or solutions for them. You can’t have a debate when you’re talking about two completely different things.

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Not just different things, but whether those things even exist

Like, I’m all about debating the best approaches to fighting climate change. I’m not about debating whether it exists.

You can’t debate solutions when you disagree about what the problem is

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Especially when they think your views are the problem.

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As much as I can understand your point, it’s a truth that if you can argue against your beliefs, you have a full understanding of both sides. You should be well versed in order to provide a solid understanding. Just as one side wants the other to hear reason, there has to be a common ground somewhere.

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That’s fantastic advice. Every now and then you gotta check yourself. Those MAGA folks don’t know they’re brainwashed, and honestly, neither would any of us. Nobody is too smart for propaganda!

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Oh great Garfield of the lasagna, share with us your wisdom.

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Those MAGA folks don’t know they’re brainwashed, and honestly, neither would any of us.

I challenge this line of reasoning. All that is required is asking the question “is that true?”, then attempting to answer that question. There are very few modern conservative talking points that cannot be riddled with holes via 10 min of googling. I understand that people of western society have had our attention robbed of us, but all that is required is a desire to know the truth. They don’t. They want to have an interesting story that triggers their emotions. I will not abide apologies for anyone still supporting the MAGA agenda.

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Understanding the other side doesn’t mean there will be a common ground. Understanding nazis doesn’t mean there is common ground to share with them.

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Welllllllll, you’re probably right. I hope you’re right. But, just to be on the safe side of sane, please allow me to recommend this nicely-made retrospective about the 2001 film portraying the Wannsee conference, for your cerebral pleasure.

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The problem is literally that people keep labeling anything slightly right of genderqueer marxist-lenninist a “nazi”. There’s plenty of common ground between what Lemmy considers a “Nazi” and actual Nazis.

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Exluding intolerance doesn’t result in an echo chamber.

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Truth

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