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so… why didn’t the left stop fascism? I hear a lot of talk about killing people, but it’s been three months and nothing has happened.

Are we all just yappers?

You can bitch all you want, but the right won, and they won exactly what they wanted. So bitching about it on the left isn’t going to make us anymore likely to win, is it?

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We have no leftwing party in the United States

I phone banked for Sanders on 2 campaigns.

I don’t see Neoliberals or Fascists as winning, just different degrees of losing.

I no longer have the slightest hope of ever “winning” a prosocial government here. We’re too oligarch captured.

I talk and comment to maintain my sanity in an insane capitalist hellscape I lack the power to change.

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We have no leftwing party in the United States

probably because the left is so dysfunctional they cant form a cohesive group that people want to vote for.

I no longer have the slightest hope of ever “winning” a prosocial government here. We’re too oligarch captured.

perhaps join the liberal fight, and fight against things like oligarchy, which liberals are not for, because it’s obviously bad for institutions. The better the institution is at helping the people, the better the people are.

I talk and comment to maintain my sanity in an insane capitalist hellscape I lack the power to change.

Liberalism is basically the only option you have here, realistically. Anything you can do to change the political tide and get people to care about the importance of good governance, is a good thing.

You could plot a coup and overthrow the government, but we’re not delusional, and that’s obviously not happening anytime soon so, might as well explore other routes.

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Liberals are for oligarchy. How can you be anti-oligarchy if you are pro-capitalism and pro-markets?

Weird how the left is crushed and weak when the entirety of the US 20th and 21st century is crushing anti-oligarchy (a.k.a left) forces. Maybe it isn’t a failure of the goal, but that willing yourself into power isn’t going to magically make it happen.

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You should read about what happened to domestic left parties and people after WWII. Also what the US did to left elements abroad. The state of the left in the US today didn’t evolve naturally to its current status quo.

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Well said.

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