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This does misunderstand what actually costs the energy – it’s training the models that’s costly, not using the already trained ones. Although to be fair using them increases incentive for new ones to be trained… But yeah asking ChatGPT for a recipe idea isn’t burning an ounce of gasoline.

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Using them is also very energy intensive (though much less so than training).

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Playing a AAA game amount of energy vs running an entire data center on full blast amount of energy, is the comparison I like to make.

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While the order of magnitude is correct, running the bigger models is closer to playing a AAA game on 8 computers at the same time.

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Yes, and now not just cringe gamers are using that electricity. At least that was an experience wholely unique, this is people delegating thought, artistry, and processing. Meaning now it can be use for passive things in day to day life.

The increase then can be measured by any time that wasnt spent on gaming, now needing a large enough mole hill to want and circumvent. Gaming already was escapism of social cognizant responsibilities, I say this as a dude who spent every 80 hours a week on gaming, and have 11k hours in league.

Circumventing these things outside of gaming will essentially lead to a dependency. I hardly trust adults to self govern, but kids I can see being swindled by the ‘ability’ granted. Rather than the dependency and lack of one’s innate thought and memory.

It just makes me scared, no I dont think it will ever fully replace a person’s mind, but it will grasp it. It can make a person doubtful of themselves and in doubt we are most persuadable. With recent politics nationwide trying to turn into fascist states fundamentally built on hate, I do not want kids to be raised persuaded without their will. While also removing part of their learning capabilities and reducing their capacity.

Cities will seem like labor mills to house the slaves, while being more aware of freedom than those truly free.

C’mon man Matrix was on this shit, if that’s too boring try adventure time.

(I don’t game anymore)

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But they are always training new models

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Right, I mentioned that the more they’re used the more incentive there is to train new ones. But also it’s not like buying a product from the store which then creates a demand for a replacement, it’s much fuzzier and it’s difficult to point to any one user as increasing the demand for more models. Realistically I think we’ve gone well past the point where it makes sense to train general purpose LLMs any further, it’s drastically diminishing returns for marginally higher quality. The continued fervor is being driven by the same people that drove crypto and NFT prices way beyond reality: speculators and VC parasites trying to shove the new hype buzzword into anything they can get their hands on.

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people who complain about mountains of disposable diapers at landfills misunderstand the problem. it’s the poop of newborn babies that’s the problem, not the ones who have gone on to become adults. although to be fair their growing up increases the chance of more poop-producing babies.

but yeah sleeping around without birth control isn’t contributing to even one extra poop-filled diaper.

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