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… you might be reading too much into a silly superhero. He fights a man with mechanical tentacles named ‘Doctor Octopus’. He has an enemy who is literally just a stage magician called ‘Mysterio’. There are several animal-people. One villain is literally made out of sand.

It’s… generally not that deep.

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The MCU is one of the biggest moneymakers in Hollywood. It is literally Disney’s flagship media line and curiously when they attained Spider-man from Disney, the first thing they did was pull Spidey out of poverty and put Aunt May on the Avengers payroll.

It may not be that deep in the comics, but it’s still teaching kids the way to fight crime is to punch them in the face, break their legs and put them in an impacted and inhumane prison system.

Just like Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush and Dan Quayle taught us we should do as they were subsidiIng the prison industrial complex and pushing the War on Drugs.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t enjoy Spider-man. I read Spider-man as a kid and my grandson does today. He also fantasizes about punching baddoes in the face, and I can only hope he’ll realize that’s fantasy before his first real encounter with law enforcement.

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Alright but 99% of my memories of superheroes as a kid weren’t them fighting crime, but them fighting supervillains, which is generally the main draw for kids.

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It still instills a dynamic that the best way to solve disputes is by force and that some parts of the public are undesirable by fiat.

Given the current affairs of the US in which half our federal officials are trying to outlaw trans folk, I’m hyper-aware that this is a bad message to give.

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But you still get people’s unconscious biases influencing their work.

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Sure, but that could be said for any media, and saying that superheroes as a whole are just pro-cop propaganda is way over the line of what is a reasonable interpretation. I’m not even a big superhero guy and I recognize that. Shit, a big part of a lot of these superheroes is that the cops aren’t their friends and are part of the reason why they hide their identity.

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Yeah definitely. But it’s still good to examine the assumptions of the paradigm to know what it’s viewpoint is. I agree, I don’t think it’s intentional and I wouldn’t call it propaganda. But it’s always good to try and find the pov things are written from.

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