These bigoted, ignorant scum will never listen to anything. They are politically illiterate infants with an allergic reaction to reading.

They have ruined a safe space cultivated and cared for, they have turned this place into a new reddit.

I had a dude in my private messages going on about how I was both mutilating myself and other children. Many more people on hexbear have had similar experiences, with these worthless ignorant scum popping in to deliver the political equivalent of a giant shit.

As your friends, comrades, and people you say you defend get slurred at, dehumanized, and harassed please ask yourself:

Is it worth it?

I have the answer, I know you know it as well:

No its not

I used to think otherwise

I was a fool

its not worth a few laughs

even if you dunk all you want, that doesn’t take away the knife those people put in our backs.

These bigots, fascists, and NATO liberals are as worthless offline as they are here, why should we give them any attention. They are worth less than the dirt beneath our fingernails. Why should we poison ourselves with their influence? We don’t make any room for them offline, why should we not online?

And really

How many essays have your written?

How many sources have you combed through?

How many times have you explained the most basic facts of reality?

How many attempts at good faith?

Only for them to dismiss it in their stupidity. They don’t read it, they just crumble and divert back to the programming these little shits trust in more than God.

For every time there is a good faith user, there are a dozen scumbag fascists. And most of the time, the “good faith one” just reverts back to their old shit.

Do you really think losing any member of the hexbear or lemmygrad community, longtime members or not, is worth a few good dunks?

I don’t believe a small chance of gaining a new user is worth alienating an entire section of the community. The vast majority of those idiots are lost causes. If they are interested, the can just make an account and ask in good faith.

Is posting a meme to “own the liberals” worth your comrades getting more trauma from bigots harassing them?

No its not.

you’ve had your laugh, but it should end

Ban them all, SJW, lemm.ee, lemmy, the programmer nazi edglords. Keep Lemmygrad.

Defederate from those communities. We shouldn’t sacrifice our own for more clicks. For having to subject ourselves to the opinions of people thoroughly brainwashed? We aren’t reddit. We came here to get away from that. I’m sick of this. We are sick of this.

End it now

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14 points

If we’re taking account of opinions I’ll throw my hat in with defederation. The entire value of Chapochat and hexbear was its existence as a chill place. I understand many people wanted to go back to and enjoy the old sub days but what hexbear was is completely different. I’ve been around for a long time and don’t post much, gotta say I’m not a big fan of the changes.

Between threatening dms (which were generally a rare existence pre-federation) and overall trolling and toxicity, I really think we took a step back.

I don’t see myself browsing much with federation being a thing.

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Yeah. My animal reaction is to say keep federation because I take an unhealthy amount of joy from arguing, but I had this realisation today that in no longer in the happy place I used to be in.

I just feel like I’m back in Reddit. Keep lemmygrad, maybe a couple of others, I don’t know. But the spirit and heart of hexbear has been poisoned.

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This is my experience with federation, too. I used to come here and know that I wouldn’t be doomscrolling or feeling terrible about being reminded how shitty people were outside of some strategic dunks which i also found funny. Now it seems that all I see is people being stubbornly awful, and proud to be that way, while I just don’t feel like posting or commenting anymore. It makes me feel again the anxiety i used to come here to escape from.

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