Although I have not watched a lot of Hasan videos , I think he is not actually leftist ! He is liberal at best , posing to be leftist ?

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He went into Ethan Klein’s podcats, whose audience is mostly liberals and socdems and said, in no uncertain terms that the uighur genocide is a lie. He is good friends with the Deprogram boys, which are open MLs. He regularly criticizes the dems.

There is a lot of criticism to be done about hasan piker, but dismissing him as a liberal feels like the usual “no true leftist” purity test

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is there criticism though? like if you dont like his streams you probably are a chud.

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As an avid Hasanabi viewer, I have criticisms of him for sure, but not really regarding his politics. He’s a classic react lord and it bothers me when, while watching a video on stream, he sometimes just gets up and leaves while leaving the video running. Also he’s kind of a douche sometimes and quite aggressive towards random chatters, although I’ll give him leeway there because oh my god do people online have the worst fkn opinions about Hasan Piker. I think if I got as much shit on a daily basis as him (while being forced to read it because it’s my job to engage with the audience), I would lose my mind.

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although I’ll give him leeway there

Yeah same. At first blush it feels like he’s being a douche sometimes, but really it’s that his chat is literally trying to gaslight him for fun approximately 50% of the time lol

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5 points

Off the top of my head: he frequently uses ableist language, like using “schizophrenic” as an insult.

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yes, there is a lot of legitimate criticism. he might have a couple of good China takes, but he holds a lot of state department propaganda as true— says there is a “cultural genocide” of Uyghurs and propagates the “state capitalist” obfuscation.

CW: sexual assault

he is also unapologetic abt soliciting prostitution and anyone who calls him out on it, he calls sex work exclusionary. im not gonna entertain a struggle session rn. but think abt this: to have solidarity with sex workers, one must understand that sex work is real labor, and labor under capitalism is coercive, therefore, soliciting sex from a sex worker is coerced sex (i.e. r***). johns are r***ists, to deny this is to deny the material reality of sex work, and insulting to sex workers

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Ok but this assumes all sex workers are coerced. Not all of them are.

Cw

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And I resent the idea that something is like rape. To me, the key aspect of rape is trauma and nonconsent.

I have plenty of friends that are in sex work and are doing fine and have no trauma. It’s obviously important to ensure people can leave this industry, we need to make sure all sex workers live fulfilling lives, especially considering the increased risk factors of that industry. It’s just as a survivor of rape and someone that has talked to others about this exact issue, I think it’s important to keep an open mind and adapt to what sex workers at large need. Of course, this can only be done with scientific socialism.

This convos isn’t exactly good for me rn so I’d appreciate it if only one person replies to this comment

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could you explain this position on SW to me?

cw sv

the two components seem at odds, because usually when people take the solicitors are r***ists line, the prescription is banning it. but almost every mode of support for sex workers i’ve heard of involves the further legalization & formalization of SW. how do you square this?

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So far, the criticisms that have caused struggle sessions wind up being about pretty mild stuff.

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He went into Ethan Klein’s podcats, whose audience is mostly liberals and socdems and said, in no uncertain terms that the uighur genocide is a lie.

Damn. I don’t think I’d have the guts to do that. When did he do that?

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23 points
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