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Low-density sprawl essentially requires cars.

I disagree. I live in the suburbs in Europe and there is plenty of single family homes with a garden here. But you’re still always within 500m of a bus stop or tramline. Have been living here without a car for quite while, it’s fine.

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I’d be curious what the population density numbers are. There’s a world of difference in density between, say, single-family rowhouses and classic American suburbia.

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My math is here: https://lemmy.world/comment/3165486

But essentially, for the same cost as cars, the lowest density possible before becoming rural 106 households / sq mi (6 acres per household) can have a bus pass every 6 minutes, 24/7/365. You can double frequency by adding a second stop on the way to a transit spine.

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The idea that an American city might have a housing area A) without roads and B) with a bus stop and C) one that shows up every 6 minutes instead of once an hour makes me want to cry

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Yeah, I think it’s mostly rowhouses.

Also the entire suburb spreads along through a valley, so it’s like long and thin, which makes it very easy to run a central tramline through it.

But it still should be possible anywhere with good public transport.

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Ah, there’s your answer. I love rowhouses and think they and other “missing middle” are a great compromise for getting denser, more walkable, more transit-oriented communities while still avoiding being like Manhattan. True low-density sprawl (as seen in so much of the US and Canada) is detached single-family homes with large setback requirements, large parking minimums, and typically large lot size minimums. It’s purposefully designed to essentially enforce car-dependent sprawl.

The style of development you describe is what we call streetcar suburbs, as they were generally developed along streetcar lines in the days of yore.

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Rowhouses: “let’s turn your house into an apartment!”

Why anyone would want to have their house attached to someone else’s is beyond me.

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