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Ok, well surely you recognize that there are lots of people who agree with me - who feel single family homes are nice and living elbow to elbow with your neighbors in maximum density is not in any way desirable.

Unfortunately, ultra-urbanist zealots are very loud online. I suspect many of them will change their tunes with age.

Edit: what’s damaging to the ecosystems of our planet is PEOPLE! There’s no law of nature that states a suburban density isn’t sustainable, just that it’s unsustainable for 8b people. You’re proposing eco-austerity because human population is out of control

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just that it’s unsustainable for 8b people

So is your solution global mass genocide just so you can enjoy your sprawling suburbs?

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What part of “naturally contract” implies genocide? I swear, the resistance to understanding is willful.

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That will take well over a century, if not multiple centuries. We need actual plans for living sustainably now, not hundreds of years in the future.

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The ‘under 1 billion’ part implies genocide, because that is literally never gonna happen - in a time frame where we wouldn’t have to rethink housing and nature right now and the next few decades - otherwise without a major worldwide catastrophe. Sure, climate change might take care of it (again, decades away and people need housing now, also, these solutions actually help with climate change) but then we won’t have to worry about silly things like housing ever again.

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there are lots of people who agree with me - who feel single family homes are nice

Lots of people believe in “drill baby drill”

Fuck em.

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Call me when you fucking grow up

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Do you have an example of a sustainable single family suburb that exists currently, or ways in which to offset the inherent inefficiency present in such structures?

Why is not living in a suburb austerity? Is all of every city and rural population living in austerity?

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Have you ever been to a small city? I can’t find a logical way in which a small city surrounded by undeveloped land would be unsustainable.

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Do you have to drive to the grocery store? Do you have to commute to work? Do you grow monoculture grass lawns? Are the roads winding instead of straight? Do private lawns create circumstances where to get to the nearest store you have to go multiple times the actual distance to get there? These are all ways in which suburbs are unsustainable.

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just that it’s unsustainable for 8b people

cool where’s everyone else gonna live then

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Let the population contract to <<1b as it was for thousands of years of civilization before industrial agriculture caused a very recent explosion in population the past 2 centuries (predominantly the 20th century)

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ah yes i love ecofascism

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That’s…not a thing

Like literally absurd to even consider as a physical possibility.

How exactly is the population supposed to contract?

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