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Know what else will be dangerous for potentially 100 years, maybe longer? Letting Russia win/hold territory. Like, folks, it’s war. The front is already riddled with mines, many in strange places because of the dam wash out.

Is this crappy and dangerous for civilians? Yes. But come on, Russian occupiers are literally committing genocide and mining the shit out of stuff right now. At least if cluster munitions help end this war then the cleanup can begin and things can start to get less dangerous.

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By this logic literally anything is justified if it stops Russia.

Shortsighted.

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4 points

Chemicals! Biologics! Nukes! Suicide Bombers! Targeting children!

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Did the US commit a genocide when they invaded Afghanistan?

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Well yeah but we don’t talk about that.

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We just talk about the genocides committed by the baddies.

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10 points

“At least if nuclear bombs help end this war…”

Just no.

Especially because these things will be used on Ukrainian soil. So it will be Ukranian people who will have to deal with the fallout for years/decades to come.

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Nuclear bombs are very different than cluster munitions.

The Russians are already mining-remining Ukranian soil, creating an unexploded ordinance issued for generations. In fact, Russian is also using cluster munitions, so the problem with them specifically already exists.

Similar cautions/implications/unfortunate consequences for mines will be needed for unexploded cluster munitions, so this will need to be dealt with regardless of if Ukraine uses them.

The elected leaders of Ukraine have made the tactical choice to do this, have weighed the trade-offs, and convinced an inittialy-hesitant America to ship weapons. Who are you/the world to interfere with their sovereign decisions on their own land, with consequences largely confined to their own land?

If you are an American/Ukranian and oppose your country providing/receiving these munitions, contact your representatives.

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I’m from neither country. I am however from one of the 100+ countries that has banned the use of cluster bombs for over a decade.

In my country, there’s still people dying from unexploded bombs leftovet from world war 1.

From an article on why cluster bombs are so controversial

Sixty percent of cluster bomb casualties are people injured while undertaking everyday activities, according to Reuters. One third of all recorded cluster munitions casualties are children.

So yes, while I keep being staunchly on the side of Ukraine and NATO helping them, this is not something I like to see.

They are looking at short term benefits, understandably. I may be naive, but still believe they can drive the Russians out with more conventional weapons. The fact that they seemingly don’t think so is actually worrying.

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