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Always amses me to see you guys build your wood houses. This looks so much like a construction game for children, I want to play too!

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I live on a fault line along the pacific ring of fire, and so building with wood was an absolute necessity for us so long, as they were structurally more lenient to the constant earthquakes. Even now I believe our old government building is the largest wooden building in the Southern hemisphere (and it’s only 4 stories tall). These days as construction techniques have changed, we’ve obviously built things with concrete, steel, brick, etc., but the wooden tradition remains strong, with a huge majority of modern houses here still being built like this.

That aside, wood was also just a much cheaper material to build with, so it was the most economical material to use for a long time for much of the “new world”.

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Right. Buildings were mostly wood and mud in Europe until the 18th Century. By then, cities became so dense that big fires were extremely deadly. Little by little people started building in stone, then bricks and now reinforced concrete.

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It didn’t really have anything to do with fires. Pretty much every hardwood forest was cut down in Europe and any remaining were protected so they could be used to build ships.

America was colonized late enough that it never really became an issue.

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you guys build your wood houses

What do you normally build houses with?

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Here in Europe, we use mostly cinder blocks or bricks. I guess wood is more common in Northern Europe and Switzerland

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In California we use wood because it flexes during earthquakes. There may be damage during a big one but at least the house is less likely to collapse on you.

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If we did that in the US west coast, they would crack and fall apart from tectonic plate shift. You need to build things to be flexible for earthquakes and general shift.

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That’s because Europe has had many more centuries worth of deforestation. The greatest resource the Americas had to offer to Europe was essentially unlimited lumber.

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In Florida houses are also built from cinder blocks because wood is too weak against hurricanes.

Edit: interiors can be built from wood, but all exterior walls are made with cinder blocks.

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We have plenty of brick houses here too, but they all are still built around wooden frames for the most part

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Wood is becoming popular for new constructions in France too.

With the new regulations you need to limit the amount of CO2 emitted for building and maintaining the house.

It’s much easier to respect this regulation by using wood rather than concrete so we see more and more wooden constructions now.

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something like this for example

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With clay bricks! That’s a fa’cy one

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Or this

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That appears to be a military bunker of some sort

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In Europe? Bricks and mortar

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It’s not like it’s a “wood house” though just the framing is softwood lumber. The foundation is reinforced poured concrete, there’s steel support braces, the ties and hardware are likely zinc coated steel, roof is asphalt shingles or steel, wind bracing is lumber or steel rods depending on code, could even have exterior brick or vinyl siding.

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I understand a lot of homes in Europe are not well insulated, and weren’t built with it in mind. Climate change is causing problems with this design deficit.

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That is mainly specifically a UK problem. Most homes in Europe are pretty decently to excellently insulated.

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Wouldn’t the inside of your house still have wood framing structure like this though? Looks like this neighbourhood uses vinyl siding, but you could easily have a brick/stone/stucco exterior.

Isn’t it way harder to run plumbing/electric through cinder blocks, let alone hanging drywall? Or do you build a cinderblock box first and then frame the inside with wood?

This place looks like it doesn’t have a basement, which is a must in Canada, and all our basements are generally concrete pour or cinderblocks, but we still have framing on the inside walls, and usually everything above the basement is wood + facade

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Portugal here, no wood, just iron, steel and concrete. And bricks, of course.

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Where I am in South Carolina very few people have basements as they would be prone to flooding

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Interestingly enough, I was contemplating the amount of sand used in cinder blocks vs tabby.

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Isn’t it way harder to run plumbing/electric through cinder blocks, let alone hanging drywall? Or do you build a cinderblock box first and then frame the inside with wood?

At least in South America (where most buildings are made of brick and mortar) there’s no drywall. The internal finish is a smooth layer on top of the bricks and that’s it. That makes it easier to hang heavy things on the wall but also makes it impossible to run wires of any kind. It also makes repairs more difficult.

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Our schools in North America are mostly built like this. I think the bricks are hollow, so they can run power, but most things reside inside the drop ceiling.

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Wouldn’t the inside of your house still have wood framing structure like this though? Extremely rare. Most houses built until the 1959s are made of stone and mortar, with walls at least 2 feet wide. In Northern Europe, i.e. UK, Belgium, Netherlands, parts of France and Germany, you would fund brick and mortar walls. Interior walls were built with thin hollow bricks assembled with mortar. These houses are a pain to renovate and most people just put everything agaisntbthe existing walls and then glue their drywalls on top of it with adhesive mortar. Since then, it is mostly cinder blocks or hollow brichs that are then filled with concrete. Modern building regulations impose steel reinforcement in regions prone to earthquakes. Interior walls are built with a framing of steel railings that are very light and flexible when handled but very sturdy when assembled. The drywall is screwed on each side of these rails which gives room for electrical and plumbung.

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Typically, yes. In the US at least, cinder block houses are common particularly in Florida and coastal regions. The inside would still likely have a moisture barrier and insulation on modern homes, so you will typically have wood framing for interior walls to allow for wiring, plumbing, and insulation that is then drywalled over.

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I’m genuinely curious. I am in the southern US, Alabama specifically with the heat and humidity that entails. There are cinder block homes here, but they’re mostly looked down upon and almost always have mold and mildew problems. How is that handled with brick and mortar or concrete construction?

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Double walls, with thermal insulation, external vapor barrier and built in ventilation ducts. Special additives for the mortars prevent moisture from seeping into the walls. Double or even triple pane windows and good quality, properly applied exterior paint reinforces the insulation.

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Most of the ones I’ve seen don’t have most of, or any of this. I’d suspect that’s the problem.

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I don’t see why brick and mortar houses should be extra susceptible to those problems if build well. But of course Europe didn’t use to see the same extremes of heat and humidity as the US does, perhaps it will become a problem in the future.

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You got it right I suspect. Most of these that I’ve seen are a single course of blocks with no discernible vapor barrier or anything. And maybe a thin layer of paint.

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Brick manufacturing devastates the environment. We build our houses from sustainable resources.because we’re not cavemen.

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We build our houses from trees because we have lots of trees.

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Meanwhile most of your energy sources are not renewable and per capita the average emissions of the American is double or even triple of the average European.

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Why the aggressive tone? Each technique has its advantages. I guess brick and mortar houses would burn less in California, which has the same climate as Italy and Spain

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Whether or not the house burns to the ground is irrelevant when the damage caused by the heat alone would condemn a brick/stone house in the US. At least wood frame houses can be easily tore down and rebuilt.

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That is not the reasoning at all.

Places generally build with whatever sensical building material they have most widely available. If there are a ton of forests, they probably build with wood. If there’s a ton of stone, they probably build with stone.

You’re wrong, and honestly kind of a dick.

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