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I have some experience with two people who had DIS/multiple personalities and with the (non-)acceptance of psychiatrists and psychologists. One person might get a borderline disorder instead of DIS. At least Frank Putnam’s MPD book has large stretches that are not good or factual or good science (and do sometimes lack patient centering) Edit: Read Huldra’s comment about him, they highlight important consequences of his ideas.

I have a couple of theories of, but mostly it doesn’t matter so much. What matters is how we want to interact with bodies that we recognize. We do ascribe to them a sense of continuity and permanence which obviously is wrong and yet not seldom useful. We do ascribe to them certain patterns of acceptable or estimated behavior, too. A clearly neurodivergent friend I have gets cut much more slack if he isn’t finding the right tone of cultural civility, which is the right thing to do. Other people would get more scold for failing social cues.

What matters in interacting with DIS is that you yourself are still allowed boundaries and it isn’t a failure not to get not communicated things. Though it is nice to talk to people as they want to be talked to, even if that varies.

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CW:(Ableist murder) https://greyfaction.org/resources/proponents/putnam-frank/ (Also further warning that other text on this site may be critical of DID as a whole, but its still a valuable resource for documenting what some notable figures in the field believe and support.)

Frank Putnam also seems to support “facilitated communication”(various methods where an “assistant” supposedly helps someone communicate when they otherwise couldn’t, and interprets those communications) and satanic abuse conspiracy shit, specifically in a case when both of these combined led to the murder of an autistic child.

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yeah as far as i’m aware “facilitated communication” is 100% bullshit.

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We do ascribe to them a sense of continuity and permanence which obviously is wrong and yet not seldom useful.

i’m not sure how to parse this sentence

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You expect that people and their feelings and how you refer to them and how they act is more or less constant. That the Julia you talked to 5 minutes ago is roughly the same as the one you talk to now. That this is true for years, too. It is not true in general, but especially not if DIS people act very different (and not in the way of mania) from one moment to the next.

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It is not true in general,

sure it is, at least for acquaintances. we grow and change over time of course, but outside of trauma or radicalization that most people don’t go through you’re not going to observe those changes without being very close to someone. Trump is the same piece of shit he’s always been for 50 years. my parents’ neighbors are the same people with the same politics and general demeanor they had going back to my childhood (well, the ones who aren’t dead or moved away).

various coworkers, classmates, sports teammates etc never exhibited radical change outside of normative ranges of mood, and my friend who has bpd or whatever kinda just has a wider range. when i’ve had occasion to bump into people again they’re presenting the same way as they always did, give or take two trans people.

i reckon it’s precisely the lack of this continuity that makes whatever dis/multiple whatever people seems scary or disturbing to neurotypicals.

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